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    Jul 26, 2011, 01:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Face it, Christianity is the most prominent religion in the United States and always has been.
    So when the Muslims outnumber us, you'll respect the holidays they establish?
    Why can't they just respect ours?
    But they do. Our own Constitution is what makes the fuss.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So when the Muslims outnumber us, you'll respect the holidays they establish?
    Not going to happen.

    But they do. Our own Constitution is what makes the fuss.
    Then why is Christmas still a federal Holiday? I don't call suing to get rid of every vestige of Christianity from the public square - no matter how long established - or stealing a lawful symbol, respect.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Not going to happen.
    You'd think so from some of the Republican rants I hear.
    Then why is Christmas still a federal Holiday? I don't call suing to get rid of every vestige of Christianity from the public square - no matter how long established
    Why is "In God we trust" still on our money? Why is "under God" still in the Pledge? I remember when the latter was added. Teachers made us recite the Pledge over and over again very carefully so as not to omit those two words.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    If I'm in someone else's place and their culture is different I respect that. I wouldn't try to force them to give up their heritage, their culture, their beliefs because I've been victimized. Why can't they just respect ours?
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know WHY you misstate the situation... Oh YES I do. It's because it allows you to play the victim... Well, let me tell you this, Mr. Christian.. Christians AIN'T victims. They AIN'T. That's just so. Plus, there AIN'T nobody forcing you to give up your heritage... That would be NOBODY...

    What you MISSTATE on PURPOSE is that people like me only want to enforce the First Amendment to our Constitution and keep religion OUT of GOVERNMENT. You can have as many Christian displays as you like, ANYWHERE you like, as long as it's on private property... That would be ANYWHERE you LIKE as long as it's not on GOVERNMENT PROPERTY!

    Why do you have such a hard time understanding that? It's not difficult... Really.

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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You'd think so from some of the Republican rants I hear.
    I don't hear any Republicans rant about that.

    Why is "In God we trust" still on our money? Why is "under God" still in the Pledge?
    Because contrary to what you may hear, God is not unconstitutional.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I don't know WHY you misstate the situation... Oh YES I do. It's because it allows you to play the victim... Well, let me tell you this, Mr. Christian.. Christians AIN'T victims. They AIN'T. That's just so. Plus, there AIN'T nobody forcing you to give up your heritage... That would be NOBODY...
    Lol, do you ever read my comments or is knee-jerking all you're god for these days? I didn't play the victim, nor did I say anyone was forcing me to give up my heritage.

    What you MISSTATE on PURPOSE is that people like me only want to enforce the First Amendment to our Constitution and keep religion OUT of GOVERNMENT.
    God is not unconstitutional, and SCOTUS just upheld Christian displays on public property.

    Why do you have such a hard time understand that? It's not difficult... Really.
    Right back at you big fella.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    SCOTUS just upheld Christian displays on public property
    Hello again, Steve:

    Well, you don't expect THIS Supreme Court to understand the Constitution, do you?

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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't hear any Republicans rant about that.
    The Michigan ones?
    Because contrary to what you may hear, God is not unconstitutional.
    Nor is He constitutional.
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    Jul 26, 2011, 02:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Lol, do you ever read my comments or is knee-jerking all you're god for these days? I didn't play the victim
    Originally Posted by speechlesstx:
    If I'm in someone else's place and their culture is different I respect that. I wouldn't try to force them to give up their heritage, their culture, their beliefs because I've been victimized. Why can't they just respect ours?
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    #50

    Jul 26, 2011, 03:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Originally Posted by speechlesstx:
    If I'm in someone else's place and their culture is different I respect that. I wouldn't try to force them to give up their heritage, their culture, their beliefs because I've been victimized. Why can't they just respect ours?
    Really? I said I respect other cultures. The middle sentence was a portrayal of the other side's behavior, not mine. And before ex pounces on my use of the word "force," after beliefs add "in the public square" for clarification. It is those who want to force God out of the public square that play the victim. God forbid they should hear the word God at graduation or see a cross on a hillside.
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    #51

    Jul 26, 2011, 03:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    God forbid they should hear the word God at graduation or see a cross on a hillside.
    I'm a Christian and don't want God's name bandied about at public events.
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    #52

    Jul 26, 2011, 04:22 PM

    Ok, that's your choice. But as I showed, His name has been officially 'bandied about' by our leaders for centuries. No reason to change now.

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