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  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:09 AM
    excon
    Who is the most biggoted Republican presidential candidate?
    Hello:

    Well, it's the BLACK man, of course... During a presidential debate, Cain said that he wouldn't put a Muslim in his administration. On Fox News Sunday, he expanded that stance, endorsing the idea that any American community could bar construction of mosques.

    Does anybody think the Constitution loving right winger is mistaken? Does he have any defenders here?

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:14 AM
    smoothy

    Obama is... the biggest Bigot in Washington DC.

    He makes the KKK seem tame.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:17 AM
    excon

    Hello smoothy:

    Well, I KNEW you'd love Cain.

    Care to argue the Constitutionality of his stance, or would you rather just cast aspersions?? Never mind. I know what you'd rather do.

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 08:31 AM
    speechlesstx

    Ex, this thread isn't even worthy of a response.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 08:42 AM
    excon

    Hello Steve:

    Ok, then find a thread where you can argue with NK. THAT'S productive. There ARE a few of us, however, who CARE about the views of presidential candidates.

    By the way, I don't remember you being this reticent when we were discussing the Park 51 mosque. What? You don't want to discuss it because you AGREE with Cain? He's a REPUBLICAN, after all. Are you unable to say he's a racist pig?

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 01:19 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy:

    Well, I KNEW you'd love Cain.

    Care to argue the Constitutionality of his stance, or would you rather just cast aspersions??? Never mind. I know what you'd rather do.

    excon


    But I'd perfer to have Charles Manson before I'd want Obama in there a day longer. At least he can open his mouth without telling a lie with each breath.


    Actually if he wasn't Dead... I'd vote for Jeffery Dahmer... maybe he could have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid over for lunch... Litterally.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 02:21 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Ok, then find a thread where you can argue with NK. THAT'S productive. There ARE a few of us, however, who CARE about the views of presidential candidates.

    Perhaps if you'd open with something that doesn't imply they all are bigoted.

    Quote:

    By the way, I don't remember you being this reticent when we were discussing the Park 51 mosque. What? You don't want to discuss it because you AGREE with Cain? He's a REPUBLICAN, after all. Are you unable to say he's a racist pig?
    Islam isn't a race.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 02:25 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Perhaps if you'd open with something that doesn't imply they all are bigoted. Islam isn't a race.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, you got me... So, you're saying he IS an Islamaphobe... And, that's better how?

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 02:44 PM
    speechlesstx

    I'm not saying anything about Cain, I'll let him defend himself. But, you make it sound as if no president ever rejects certain kinds of people for their administration or the judiciary. Bwa ha ha ha!

    No, I just objected to your title, as if he is the MOST bigoted of a whole slate of bigots. Sorry, but that's nonsense and there are just as many bigots if not more on the other side.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 03:05 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    But, you make it sound as if no president ever rejects certain kinds of people for their administration or the judiciary.

    Hello again, Steve:

    I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not going to, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 03:11 PM
    smoothy

    Cain has the balls to say it... Unlike Obama that hasn't told a truthful statement in his life. Why are Muslims entitled to anything here anyway... everyone sees what rights non-muslims have in any country they gain a majority in.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 03:39 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not gonna, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

    excon

    What I heard him say is that it would require a lot more investigation. He didn't say no completely. And what he is saying about religion and law is true in the muslim community.

    We have been discussing it here a lot it seems. It just makes us opinionated not bigots.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 03:47 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    And what he is saying about religion and law is true in the muslim community.

    Hello again, dad:

    I have no problem with your supposition.. But, in THIS country, they're innocent until proven guilty.

    So, if you can PROVE they're political and NOT a religion, SUE them in court. If you WIN they will be prevented from building wherever they want. But, if you don't, they're a religion...

    Isn't that the way we do things here in this great country of ours?

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 04:32 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, dad:

    I have no problem with your supposition.. But, in THIS country, they're innocent until proven guilty.

    So, if you can PROVE they're political and NOT a religion, SUE them in court. If you WIN they will be prevented from building wherever they want. But, if you don't, they're a religion...

    Isn't that the way we do things here in this great country of ours?

    excon

    Last I had heard that is how it is done. And I did hear him say that there is a case in the courts that is expected to go before the supreme court for a ruling.

    Its unfortunate that one religion has to ride a double edged sword as there are many many good people within the religion that have adapted and are rock solid citizens. But the other side of it has death and destruction at their heart. It would be tough to sift through it all.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 04:50 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not gonna, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

    excon

    First of all, from what I read he is basing his stance on the FACT that Islam intends to install sharia law in its global caliphate. You don't like the thought that I might like to impose my beliefs on you (which I don't), why would you feel any different about Islam wanting to impose their beliefs on you (which they do)?

    Secondly, I'd rather deal with someone who is honest and up front about their beliefs than one intentionally lying to me as Obama does daily.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 05:11 PM
    southamerica

    I think a qualified Muslim cabinet member is a fine idea and I have always thought so. I thought it was great that Obama appointed Muslims to homeland security. The fact is in America we do not discriminate on creed or religion.

    We also allow people to practice their religion. What is the beef with mosques? I don't get it? Because we're afraid they are going to try and impose Sharia law in America? Wow, I guess I took a totally different American Government class than anyone who would think that building a place of worship=changing legislation. We're afraid of Muslim law? What about Christian imposed homophobic laws?

    Like any religion that would attempt to assert its views into our laws, I hope the people of America fight that. We're NOT America if we don't allow people to worship freely. We're NOT America if we discriminate based on religion.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 05:33 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by southamerica View Post
    I think a qualified Muslim cabinet member is a fine idea and I have always thought so. I thought it was great that Obama appointed Muslims to homeland security.


    Maybe Im mixed up somewhere but who is suppose to be a muslim ?


    Barack Obama's Cabinet - CBS News

    Janet Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "She is of half Italian ancestry[3][4] and is a Methodist"
  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:33 PM
    southamerica
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Maybe Im mixed up somewhere but who is suppose to be a muslim ?


    Barack Obama's Cabinet - CBS News

    Janet Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "She is of half Italian ancestry[3][4] and is a Methodist"

    Press release from DHS

    Arif Alikhan no longer holds the appointment.

    And actually it was Napolitano who appointed Kareem Shora.
  • Jul 21, 2011, 06:48 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    First of all, from what I read he is basing his stance on the FACT that Islam intends to install sharia law in its global caliphate.

    Hello again, Steve:

    If they take over the world, of course, they'll establish Islam as the global religion... What? If Christians take over the world, you WOULDN'T impose your religion on everybody?? You want to do that NOW, and you took over NOTHING! What's different about THEM??

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2011, 07:31 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    If they take over the world, of course, they'll establish Islam as the global religion... What? If Christians take over the world, you WOULDN'T impose your religion on everybody??? You wanna do that NOW, and you took over NOTHING!! What's different about THEM???

    excon

    We haven't killed people for NOT converting to our religion since the middle ages. They still do it today on a regular basis.

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