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excon · Jul 21, 2011, 06:09 AM

Hello:

Well, it's the BLACK man, of course... During a presidential debate, Cain said that he wouldn't put a Muslim in his administration. On Fox News Sunday, he expanded that stance, endorsing the idea that any American community could bar construction of mosques.

Does anybody think the Constitution loving right winger is mistaken? Does he have any defenders here?

excon

smoothy · Jul 21, 2011, 06:14 AM

Obama is... the biggest Bigot in Washington DC.

He makes the KKK seem tame.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 06:17 AM

Hello smoothy:

Well, I KNEW you'd love Cain.

Care to argue the Constitutionality of his stance, or would you rather just cast aspersions?? Never mind. I know what you'd rather do.

excon

speechlesstx · Jul 21, 2011, 08:31 AM

Ex, this thread isn't even worthy of a response.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 08:42 AM

Hello Steve:

Ok, then find a thread where you can argue with NK. THAT'S productive. There ARE a few of us, however, who CARE about the views of presidential candidates.

By the way, I don't remember you being this reticent when we were discussing the Park 51 mosque. What? You don't want to discuss it because you AGREE with Cain? He's a REPUBLICAN, after all. Are you unable to say he's a racist pig?

excon

smoothy · Jul 21, 2011, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:

Well, I KNEW you'd love Cain.

Care to argue the Constitutionality of his stance, or would you rather just cast aspersions??? Never mind. I know what you'd rather do.

excon

But I'd perfer to have Charles Manson before I'd want Obama in there a day longer. At least he can open his mouth without telling a lie with each breath.

Actually if he wasn't Dead... I'd vote for Jeffery Dahmer... maybe he could have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid over for lunch... Litterally.

speechlesstx · Jul 21, 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Ok, then find a thread where you can argue with NK. THAT'S productive. There ARE a few of us, however, who CARE about the views of presidential candidates.

Perhaps if you'd open with something that doesn't imply they all are bigoted.

By the way, I don't remember you being this reticent when we were discussing the Park 51 mosque. What? You don't want to discuss it because you AGREE with Cain? He's a REPUBLICAN, after all. Are you unable to say he's a racist pig?

Islam isn't a race.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Perhaps if you'd open with something that doesn't imply they all are bigoted. Islam isn't a race.

Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, you got me... So, you're saying he IS an Islamaphobe... And, that's better how?

excon

speechlesstx · Jul 21, 2011, 02:44 PM

I'm not saying anything about Cain, I'll let him defend himself. But, you make it sound as if no president ever rejects certain kinds of people for their administration or the judiciary. Bwa ha ha ha!

No, I just objected to your title, as if he is the MOST bigoted of a whole slate of bigots. Sorry, but that's nonsense and there are just as many bigots if not more on the other side.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

But, you make it sound as if no president ever rejects certain kinds of people for their administration or the judiciary.

Hello again, Steve:

I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not going to, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

excon

smoothy · Jul 21, 2011, 03:11 PM

Cain has the balls to say it... Unlike Obama that hasn't told a truthful statement in his life. Why are Muslims entitled to anything here anyway... everyone sees what rights non-muslims have in any country they gain a majority in.

cdad · Jul 21, 2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not gonna, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

excon

What I heard him say is that it would require a lot more investigation. He didn't say no completely. And what he is saying about religion and law is true in the muslim community.

We have been discussing it here a lot it seems. It just makes us opinionated not bigots.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by califdadof3

And what he is saying about religion and law is true in the muslim community.

Hello again, dad:

I have no problem with your supposition.. But, in THIS country, they're innocent until proven guilty.

So, if you can PROVE they're political and NOT a religion, SUE them in court. If you WIN they will be prevented from building wherever they want. But, if you don't, they're a religion...

Isn't that the way we do things here in this great country of ours?

excon

cdad · Jul 21, 2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, dad:

I have no problem with your supposition.. But, in THIS country, they're innocent until proven guilty.

So, if you can PROVE they're political and NOT a religion, SUE them in court. If you WIN they will be prevented from building wherever they want. But, if you don't, they're a religion...

Isn't that the way we do things here in this great country of ours?

excon

Last I had heard that is how it is done. And I did hear him say that there is a case in the courts that is expected to go before the supreme court for a ruling.

Its unfortunate that one religion has to ride a double edged sword as there are many many good people within the religion that have adapted and are rock solid citizens. But the other side of it has death and destruction at their heart. It would be tough to sift through it all.

speechlesstx · Jul 21, 2011, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I'm sure you're right... Doing it behind the scenes is one thing. However, ANNOUNCING he's not gonna, based on RELIGION and nothing more, is catering to the WORST of the WORST among us.

excon

First of all, from what I read he is basing his stance on the FACT that Islam intends to install sharia law in its global caliphate. You don't like the thought that I might like to impose my beliefs on you (which I don't), why would you feel any different about Islam wanting to impose their beliefs on you (which they do)?

Secondly, I'd rather deal with someone who is honest and up front about their beliefs than one intentionally lying to me as Obama does daily.

southamerica · Jul 21, 2011, 05:11 PM

I think a qualified Muslim cabinet member is a fine idea and I have always thought so. I thought it was great that Obama appointed Muslims to homeland security. The fact is in America we do not discriminate on creed or religion.

We also allow people to practice their religion. What is the beef with mosques? I don't get it? Because we're afraid they are going to try and impose Sharia law in America? Wow, I guess I took a totally different American Government class than anyone who would think that building a place of worship=changing legislation. We're afraid of Muslim law? What about Christian imposed homophobic laws?

Like any religion that would attempt to assert its views into our laws, I hope the people of America fight that. We're NOT America if we don't allow people to worship freely. We're NOT America if we discriminate based on religion.

cdad · Jul 21, 2011, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by southamerica

I think a qualified Muslim cabinet member is a fine idea and I have always thought so. I thought it was great that Obama appointed Muslims to homeland security.

Maybe Im mixed up somewhere but who is suppose to be a muslim ?

Barack Obama's Cabinet - CBS News

Janet Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"She is of half Italian ancestry[3][4] and is a Methodist"

southamerica · Jul 21, 2011, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by califdadof3

Maybe Im mixed up somewhere but who is suppose to be a muslim ?

Barack Obama's Cabinet - CBS News

Janet Napolitano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"She is of half Italian ancestry[3][4] and is a Methodist"

Press release from DHS

Arif Alikhan no longer holds the appointment.

And actually it was Napolitano who appointed Kareem Shora.

excon · Jul 21, 2011, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

First of all, from what I read he is basing his stance on the FACT that Islam intends to install sharia law in its global caliphate.

Hello again, Steve:

If they take over the world, of course, they'll establish Islam as the global religion... What? If Christians take over the world, you WOULDN'T impose your religion on everybody?? You want to do that NOW, and you took over NOTHING! What's different about THEM??

excon

smoothy · Jul 21, 2011, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

If they take over the world, of course, they'll establish Islam as the global religion... What? If Christians take over the world, you WOULDN'T impose your religion on everybody??? You wanna do that NOW, and you took over NOTHING!! What's different about THEM???

excon

We haven't killed people for NOT converting to our religion since the middle ages. They still do it today on a regular basis.