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    Mar 24, 2011, 06:50 AM

    That's not exactly how I picture Him, but I think I have much better reasons to believe in God than to believe capitalism destroyed life on Mars.
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    #22

    Mar 24, 2011, 06:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That's not exactly how I picture Him, but I think I have much better reasons to believe in God than to believe capitalism destroyed life on Mars.
    You do realize that he's using that hyperbole to make a point that unrestrained free market is drying up the water on the planet, right?
    I find no reasons to believe in your god so we're all entitled to our opinion.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 06:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    What's bizarre to me, is that you guys are making fun of all these nutty, OFF THE WALL beliefs.. But, come Sunday, you'll gather the kids up, and trot off to your local church where you'll prey to this grey bearded fellow in the sky.

    excon
    Yeah... but if the ACLU is any indication... the aetheists seem to fear the man in the sky even more than we do. Or they wouldn't pay any more attention to them then the guy with the World is going to end tomorrow sign on the corner.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    ..the aetheists seem to fear the man in the sky even more than we do.
    Can you link us to reference that athiests fear your god more than you?
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:24 AM
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    Can you link us to reference that athiests fear your god more than you?
    Pick any of their numerous lawsuits trying to squash any mention of god or religion.

    They waste huge ammounts of time and money trying to silence what they consider a superstition. If they didn't fear it, they would ignore it.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Pick any of their numerous lawsuits trying to squash any mention of god or religion.
    You're misunderstanding the point of those.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You do realize that he's using that hyperbole to make a point that unrestrained free market is drying up the water on the planet, right?
    You should realize by now that I'm not stupid.

    I find no reasons to believe in your god so we're all entitled to our opinion.
    OK, and I'm entitled to mock and laugh at you as you just did us.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You're misunderstanding the point of those.
    Nope... it they didn't fear them they would ignore them.

    They don't fear Brussles sprouts so they don't try to outlaw them.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 07:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Nope....it they didn't fear them they would ignore them.

    They don't fear Brussles sprouts so they don't try to outlaw them.
    They not trying to outlaw anything, they are trying to make the religious types respect the law/constitution. If you weren't worried about the death of religion so much you wouldn't need to have to advertise your religion so much. Isn't religion a personal issue?
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    #30

    Mar 24, 2011, 07:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    You should realize by now that I'm not stupid.
    You started the thread and never mentioned the central issue he was making... not once.
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    #31

    Mar 24, 2011, 08:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You started the thread and never mentioned the central issue he was making...not once.
    So, the whole point of the thread was to mock Chavez. Why would I detract from that fun?
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    Mar 24, 2011, 08:15 AM
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    So, the whole point of the thread was to mock Chavez. Why would I detract from that fun?
    How christian of you.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 08:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    They not trying to outlaw anything, they are trying to make the religious types respect the law/constitution. If you weren't worried about the death of religion so much you wouldn't need to have to advertise your religion so much. Isn't religion a personal issue?
    There is no freedom FROM religion in the constitution... its a freedom OF religon... the freedom to practice whatever your religion is. That's FAR different.

    Incidentally... how about Muslims imposing their religion on Canadians VIA Sharia...

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/is...ariah-law.html
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    #34

    Mar 24, 2011, 08:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So, the whole point of the thread was to mock Chavez. Why would I detract from that fun?
    And Chavez is a guy just begging to be mocked.
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    Mar 24, 2011, 08:22 AM

    The Aral Sea is almost bone dry since the days when the commies took over Russia and the surrounding nations. The reason ? The Soviets diverted it's source waters . That environmental disaster was not the result of capitalism.

    The Chinese commies created a regional environmental problem with the construction of the 3 Gorge Dam. When it breaks,the flash flood will be an unparalled human disaster .
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    #36

    Mar 24, 2011, 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    How christian of you.
    I never claimed perfection. I'm a sinner, just like you.
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    #37

    Mar 24, 2011, 08:34 AM

    If God heard what Hugo said ,God's having a belly laugh .
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    #38

    Mar 24, 2011, 09:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    There is no freedom FROM religion in the constitution.....its a freedom OF religon ... the freedom to practice whatever your religion is. Thats FAR different.
    Coorect, it's a freedom of religion, with no one religion dominating or impossing their values on others.

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Incidently...how about Muslims imposing their religion on Canadians VIA Sharia....

    CBC News Indepth: Islam
    No Sharia law. FTA you linked:
    "In May 2005, the Quebec National Assembly unanimously supported a motion to block the use of Shariah law in Quebec courts. "
    In Ontario: "So the province changed its Arbitration Act to allow "faith-based arbitration" – a system where Muslims, Jews, Catholics and members of other faiths could use the guiding principles of their religions to settle family disputes such as divorce, custody and inheritances outside the court system.
    It's voluntary – both parties (a husband and wife) have to agree to go through the process. But once they do, the decisions rendered by the tribunal are binding."

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    #39

    Mar 24, 2011, 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Coorect, it's a freedom of religion, with no one religion dominating or impossing their values on others.


    No Sharia law. FTA you linked:
    "In May 2005, the Quebec National Assembly unanimously supported a motion to block the use of Shariah law in Quebec courts. "
    In Ontario: "So the province changed its Arbitration Act to allow "faith-based arbitration" – a system where Muslims, Jews, Catholics and members of other faiths could use the guiding principles of their religions to settle family disputes such as divorce, custody and inheritances outside the court system.
    It's voluntary – both parties (a husband and wife) have to agree to go through the process. But once they do, the decisions rendered by the tribunal are binding
    ."

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    The foot is in the door... next they push to make it binding for muslims... then they push to make it law for anything involving a Muslim... then push to impose it on everyone...

    That's how they do it. Incrementally.

    They ruined their part of the world... now they plan to come here and ruin ours too.

    Don't be surprised when they start beating your daughter or granddaughter for refusing to wear a head scarf... never mind the fact she may be aetheist or CHristian.
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    #40

    Mar 24, 2011, 09:15 AM
    My goodness, you are one scared person.

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