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    #41

    Apr 30, 2010, 09:48 AM

    Hello again,

    Upon further consideration, BP will be boycotted, just because, WITHOUT any organized effort. That's the best kind of boycott anyway. Besides, the cost of this spill will probably put them out of business anyway.

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    #42

    Apr 30, 2010, 09:53 AM

    I heard some really scary forecasts that if credible are things I don't even want to contemplate.. . 6 months to completely seal the breach? Is that possible ?
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    #43

    Apr 30, 2010, 09:56 AM

    Going to be a bigger hit for whoever insured that oil platform...

    Yeah its still going to hit them really hard... but they ARE heavily insured as well. And the USA isn't their ONLY market.

    Going to be an aweful mess no doubt.

    Some people are saying the fire crews may have sunk it by putting so much water on it. Ask any Navy person who spent time aboard ship. That's a big risk when fighting a fire on a floating vessel.
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    #44

    Apr 30, 2010, 10:13 AM

    Probably greedy management. I seemed to have read articles that it lacked two critical safety devices and the one it had either didn't work or wasn't activated. Also I hear that the platform wasn't owned by BP.

    At least the Obama administration is suspending new wells until the cause of this is found.

    I'm beginning to think it's a fight between ethics and greed. Greed usually wins not "the right thing to do".
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    #45

    Apr 30, 2010, 10:30 AM

    Greenpeace...
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    #46

    May 1, 2010, 06:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I heard some really scary forecasts that if credible are things I don't even want to contemplate. ........6 months to completely seal the breach ?? Is that possible ?
    Yes Tom it took three months to cap a much smaller problem off Western Australia recently after a rig fire and this rig went down no doubt taking infrastracture with it. It is very difficult to work at depth
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    #47

    May 1, 2010, 12:03 PM

    I was reading about the Aussie rig yesterday . They are talking about drilling another hole at an angle to eventually intersect with the leaking well. And capping it from there .

    The Aussie leak was in the East Timor Sea. What has been the environmental impact a year later ?
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    #48

    May 1, 2010, 04:01 PM

    I just hope this is not used to further restrict drilling.

    There are a LOT of working poor people who have no other way of getting to their jobs other than by driving. $5.00 per gallon gasoline would make it cheaper for them to stay at home and get public assistance than to work. In fact the only way some of them could buy the necessary fuel woud be to use credit cards to the limit. Then when they have to default, more problems.

    The industry WILL find out why this happened, and they WILL correct the problem.

    Think about it. There is NOTHING in this world warrented to be 100% effective or safe. If electricity were discovered under our present system, it would be prohibited as too dangerous.

    Think how many people die each year in auto accidents. Should we ban cars?

    Hospitals,
    Doctors,
    Falls from heights?
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    #49

    May 1, 2010, 04:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I was reading about the Aussie rig yesterday . They are talking about drilling another hole at an angle to eventually intersect with the leaking well. and capping it from there .

    The Aussie leak was in the East Timor Sea. What has been the environmental impact a year later ?
    The leak was relatively small 3000 barrels a day. It was not close to the coast. It is difficult to find detailed reports of the impacts however this link may give you what you ask
    Montara Oil spill
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    #50

    May 3, 2010, 12:54 PM

    At least the CEO at Bp says they're going to step up. I may have been premature about where I buy gas. Of course that means the pumps will be paying the claims, but "There ain't no free lunch."
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    May 6, 2010, 06:50 AM
    Heckuva job, Tommy. Three days after the Deepwater Horizon leaks were discover, Interior Department chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon on a trip the White House called “work-focused,” which included a little white-water rafting with his wife. What if this had been Bush's guy?
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    #52

    May 6, 2010, 06:57 AM

    Hello Steve:

    You seem to think Brownie was scorned because he was a Bushy... Nahhh, he was scorned because he was incompetent and a dufus. Tommy, on the other hand, DID a heckofa job.

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    #53

    May 6, 2010, 07:16 AM

    The President will not allow his administration to become defined by the Gulf oil leak. He quickly used his Alinsky training to identify the villain .He and Congress will shortly go into full court press to demonize BP ,big oil (round up the ususal suspects ).I hear they found a way to connect Halliburton to this and will of course make the next leap to blame Bush .
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    #54

    May 6, 2010, 07:17 AM

    Tommy did a heckuva job doing what, wielding his paddle?
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    May 6, 2010, 07:23 AM

    Yep, 10 years after he left Halliburton it's Cheney's fault.
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    #56

    May 6, 2010, 07:29 AM
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    Tommy did a heckuva job doing what, wielding his paddle?
    Hello again, Steve:

    And, what was he required to do? He's a bureaucrat. He makes POLICY. He doesn't work for FEMA.

    What? You expect the entire federal government to stand at the waters edge and wait for the oil?? Dude!

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    #57

    May 6, 2010, 07:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Yep, 10 years after he left Halliburton it's Cheney's fault.
    Hello again, Steve:

    You guys are amazing... You seem to think that if somebody ain't around anymore, the POLICY they made when they WERE around, don't matter. And, of course, we better not make mention of it.

    You guys are SILLY.

    excon

    PS> I looked up FEMA. Amazingly, at the top of its organization chart, I found the "Center for Faith Based and Community Initiatives". That's a BUSH thing. Am I now no longer allowed to complain about it because Bush ain't around?? You guys are silly.
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    May 6, 2010, 08:08 AM

    I know we're amazing, thanks.

    And by the way, it's Obama's regime now, Interior Department officials no longer report to Bush, Cheney is no longer CEO of Halliburton, Tommy is responsible for "Fish and Wildlife" which just happen to live in the area of the leak, and blame Jake Tapper for reporting this... I'm just spreading the news.

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