Hello:

What has the oil spill in the gulf done to your thinking about MORE drilling offshore?

excon

A lot .

I think if oil spills from holes a mile in the sea can't be controlled /capped in short order ,they shouldn't be drilled at all .

I don't understand why that would be a challenge ;but until it can be demonstrated as a manageble risk then no more drilling should occure in deep water. Sites in the Atlantic would be worse.

That being said ;do you think this will prevent other nations in the Gulf region from drilling ? Nope ;in fact, this is a drill site from BP ;arguably the most experienced company in deep water drilling... I can't imagine what will happen when LukOil starts drilling off Cuba.

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I can't imagine what will happen when LukOil starts drilling off of Cuba.

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Hello tom:

Well, we COULD stop them from drilling. If you, like me, believes that an oil slick headed our way is an assault upon our nation just like airliners into buildings were. That, in my view, would be a proper use of our military.

excon

PS> I'm happy to see you adopt an environmentally correct solution. Is that the position of the right wing? Or, is collateral damage acceptable to them?

I do not know what other's think on this . I am still not opposed to off shore drilling . But there is more at stake than the energy source.
This incident has demonstrated a major flaw in the process that needs correcting before further drilling activity proceeds. That doesn't mean I will forever be opposed to drilling . Fix the flaw and drill baby drill!
One thing I learned from other major spills is that nature makes rapid corrections.

This has just reinforced my position that we should not be drilling. But Bush I mean Obama wants to keep on keepin' on.

This does expose a serious flaw in allowing more drilling, since it seems that the cutoff valves that have prevented this sort of thing in shallow waters are pressure activated and don't work in the deeps.

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Hello righty's:

My gawd, you guys sound positively LIBERAL.

excon

That would presume that you can't be a righty and an environmentalist... that is a fundamental flaw in your assumptions.

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Hello righty's:

My gawd, you guys sound positively LIBERAL.

excon

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Kind of blows the "righty" label, huh?

No, we don't sound any more liberal than usual. We've been entirely consistent in agreeing with you that throwing trash into the air (or sea) is not a good thing. And by the way, we are using our military to stop the assault.

Hello again, correcties:

Let's sing Coom By Ya.

excon

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Hello again, correcties:

Let's sing Coom By Ya.

excon

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Better yet, let's tell BP that fixing their blowoff preventer devices is the way to get us to buy their gas.

Hello again, Cats:

So, it's boycott BP. I LOVE it. (Still sounds kind of liberal, if you ask me)

excon

I am happy we all agree.
Are you serious about Boycotting BP? What else can be done?

I think Obama's decision to open up offshore drilling is a huge step backward. We should be encouraging conservation of our remaining fossil fuel reserves as well the development and growth of renewable energy technologies.

At current rates of consumption (including an annual 2.5% increase in energy consumption), we'll be out of coal in about 50 years. According to a researcher at Caltech, "we will have consumed half of the ultimate world oil, gas, and coal production by 2019. This means that the current intense development of alternative sources of energy can be justified independently of climate considerations."

PS. By "ultimate" he means ALL of it, discovered yet or not. He's found a way to estimate total coal reserves. Projections tend to be super optimistic. (And the researcher is a Bush Republican, not a flaming liberal. :))

I won't boycott them. It's not like they intended to have this accident .
I do however boycott Citgo and Lucoil willingly and gladly .

Tom why do you boycott Citgo and Lucoil?

Citgo because it is solely owned by the Venezuela government .

Lukoil ;because it's a KGB conglomerate and a major benefactor of the Iraqi Oil for Food vouchers ;a program we now know was completely corrupt. Until recently ,under pressure from the US ,they were aiding Iran .

I buy Valero whenever possible .They use a majority domestic source and refine all their oil in the US. And in Canada

Good to know thanks Tom. I actually boycott the lucoil down the street from me but it is purely a nonsense personal boycott!

Do you think it was pure coincedence that the rig blew up on Earth Day?

You know Emland I was wondering if someone sabotaged the rig. I didn't realize it was Earth day but I was thinking more on the lines of an environmental group doing it because Obama expanding the offshore drilling. So they can say look how unsafe it is.