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    Jul 12, 2008, 08:52 AM
    Cryonics or fake ?
    Is it cryonic based on science or parascience ?
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    Jul 12, 2008, 09:02 AM
    I think it's real, but they don't freeze entire bodies, just certain organs and fluids
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    Jul 12, 2008, 09:04 AM
    Cryonics is actually based on human science, although there are some detractors naturally. In order for you to read the theory yourself, visit this website:

    Cryonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Jul 12, 2008, 09:14 AM
    Why them main stream science don't use it in the hospitals ?
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    Jul 12, 2008, 09:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ravana2
    why them main stream science dont use it in the hospitals ?
    First of all, permission has to be given by the person before hand and the procedure costs thousands of dollars. A hospital just can't use this procedure and I think there is only one lab in Arizona that handles cryogenics and that's where Walt Disney body is kept.

    If you read the article in wikipedia you will see that the procedure is not entirely proven to work yet.

    To answer you first question, there is nothing 'para' about it.
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    Jul 12, 2008, 09:47 AM
    There are tree company :

    Cryonics: Alcor Life Extension Foundation

    The Cryonics Institute Home Page

    КриоРус - Крионика в России

    And by the way according to this article disney is not there!!
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    Jul 12, 2008, 10:18 AM
    And by the way according to this article disney is not there!!

    Could be he broke into little pieces and just disappeared. Was that in the greek article, I don't read greek. It didn't say in other two.

    Well, now I guess you know as much as anyone regarding cryogenic. You managed to 'dig up' ( a little play on words) a lot yourself!
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    Jul 12, 2008, 10:29 AM
    The popular urban legend that Walt Disney was cryopreserved is false; he was cremated, and interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery.

    Cryonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Read firs the english version of the page !
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    Jul 12, 2008, 10:53 AM
    That's great, ravana, glad you found that out !

    But, coming from the time when Walt Disney passed away, it was reported in the news papers that he had paid for cryogenic preservation. So, I don't know, whatever. I think its great that he wanted this done and had hoped that some day it would be a possibility to cure his illness, I think it was cancer, not sure. At the time there was a lot of family argument that they wanted a traditional interrment for him. Maybe his family won the argument. Maybe some people lump it all in with the aliens in Rosswell.
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:00 AM
    Yeah I remember when he died No cryonic's
    I know there is somebody famous that was froze I think to do with sports announcing or something and he is suppose to have been one of the most intelligent people of our time.
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:03 AM
    I found it

    A Famous Hitter is Frozen in Time
    Since his death in 2002, baseball legend Ted Williams has been stored in a 10-foot-tall, stainless steel container at Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Arizona, the world's largest cryonics facility. His head is reportedly being stored in a separate container.

    But the story doesn't end there. After his death, the famous slugger became embroiled in a rather bizarre custody battle. His daughter, Bobby-Jo Williams Ferrell, fought in court to get her father's body back so that she could have him cremated and his ashes sprinkled over the Florida Keys, which she claims was his wish. She accused her half-brother John-Henry Williams of wanting to preserve their father's body so that he could cash in on his famous DNA. But John Henry and his sister Claudia said they had signed a pact with their father in 2000 promising to have all of their remains frozen. The three siblings finally reached a settlement: Ted Williams was allowed to stay where he was, and John-Henry promised not to sell any of his father's DNA.

    HowStuffWorks "How Cryonics Works"
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:12 AM
    Here's a good place to start.
    CRYONICS − FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

    EDIT::Sorry Ravana, I see you have already linked to this same site.
    I found another interesting article.
    - Suspending Life: The Science of Cryonics
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:16 AM
    The most famous cryopreserved patient is baseball player Ted Williams.

    Cryonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If everything go well one day I will be freezed . But I don't know where to put my money that it will wait for me .
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:26 AM
    Bury it somewhere you think as safe! Or give it to someone you can trust in a coffin but you keep the key. You ask him/her to pass your coffin to their generations and when you come out again, you take your money!:D
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:30 AM
    Well I would like to get some interest rate . I don't know about usa but here in europe interest rate in banks is equal to inflation or lover . I would like to be rich when they revive me .
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:32 AM
    I think that anyone would wish so. But, I a bank, (like if you give it to someone), its really difficult that you reobtain your money. Better buy something really expensive and sell it after your revival! Maybe it would be also an antique! :D
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:41 AM
    I have a feeling by the time you 'get out' money will be worth as much as this bill is right now!
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    Jul 12, 2008, 11:48 AM
    That's why, a more valuable object is needed. Perhaps gold, no too heavy... precious stones! Hope you done get robbed in your frozen sleep! :D
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    Jul 12, 2008, 12:03 PM
    Maybe a few barrels of oil in my cryostat ? If the prices continuous to get sky rocketed I will be next bill gates .

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