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  • Mar 22, 2009, 10:59 PM
    jcompton1272
    My teen lies on me and I don't know what to do?
    My daughter has gotten on this site and said that I went through her journals and room (which is true) I also check her emails from time to time... BUT my child has threated to hurt herself more than once... lied about where she is and what she is doing... and been caught with a boy when she was suppose to be at the movies with her girl friend... so if I am not suppose to go through her journals and room please tell me what am I suppose to do to protect her from herself... also she has been on this site saying that she is being harassed at school and I have done nothing about it even after she told me... that is untrue she never told me or I would have been right at the school that day... and I do not black mail her as she has stated to you other than telling her if she can not make good choices on her own then I will make them for her... so of you thought I was wrong for checking up on her if you have any better Ideas I would love to hear them also if you have any ideas on how I should handle her not telling the whole truth I would love to hear them to... thanks
  • Mar 23, 2009, 05:08 AM
    unspeaken21

    From the looks of it it seems as if you are trying to be a better mom, or your trying to find more reasons to punish your daughter..

    The first mistake was for you to sign up on to this site.. Honestly, I can't believe how possessive you are! This is the only thing your daughter had to herself after you "rapped" her room and privacy..

    How do you expect your daughter do be honest with you, when all you do is be in her business and not give her room to breathe?

    Maybe the reason why she didn't tell you that she was harassed at school could have been because she didn't want to hear you call her a sl*t again.. I know you wouldn't have, I know you would have helped her.. but she doesn't see it that way because most of the times you have been very dominating and have never given her the benefit of the doubt..

    Your daughter says that she has moved in with you about 10 months ago.. I get that it can be really hard to bond with a child.. but you not trusting her is the biggest mistake you are doing..

    If she really was abused by her father for 11 years, then your poor daughter has been through so much.. so don't blame her for acting out ones in a while..

    You need to learn to control yourself.. I suggest you save the relationship between your daughter before its too late..

    She is only threatening to harm herself because you make her unhappy.. and because of that she is not satisfied with her life.. she is miserable..

    She lies about were she is because you don't trust her.. and you have already made it hard for her to communicate with you..


    I don't believe your daughter lies as much as you like to make her sound she does.. I think you are trying to justify that the way you behave towards your daughter is acceptable... By the way, it is not...

    (im not going to mention stuff that I already have mentioned before on your daughters post... I just say give her a break and learn to trust her... )

    It looks like your relationship with your daughter has more downs than ups... you need to get your act straight and start being more than just a mom, sometimes try to be a friends since the mom part is not doing you so well...

    And whenever you and your daughter argue, please just let it stay between you... there's no reason to let her grandpa butt-in when you know your daughter is on the verve for resenting you forever...

    You have to learn to get your act straight... you need to know that how you are behaving is not good to your daughter...
    Kids do mistakes.. but you are no longer a kid.. you should be the one guiding your daughter to the correct path by having open honest communication, rather than guiding her away from you..

    I know I'm putting all the blame on you.. but I really want you to change the way you act with your daughter so that things can get better between you two.. try acting different...
    First thing you have to do is let her have her privacy abit...
    This site would have been a nice gift from you if you could have let her had it to herself...

    Its obvious your daughter needs help and support, she knows this, that is why she came here, to this site, but now you have taken this away from her...

    Your actions make up the person your daughter is..

    You might not agree with me, but your pushing her away from her sanity...
  • Mar 23, 2009, 05:54 AM
    liz28

    I think you signing up to this site was a very good idea. It might could help you open lines of communication with your daughter better and help strengthen the relationship between the two of you.

    Unspoken21 there is two sides to every story and believe it or not teens sometimes have a way of twisting things around because they want to be free. Free to do anything they want without rules because they think they can. I was a teen once and hated my parents rules and thought they were controlling because of the rules they set until I grew up.

    I don't know what is going on in there household because I don't live there but somewhere between both stories lie the truth. You stated in your post that "Maybe the reason why she didnt tell you that she was harassed at school could have been because she didnt want to hear you call her a sl*t again.. I know you wouldnt have, I know you would have helped her.. " even you think she called her daughter a slut or not? I know kids have a way of hearing what they want. For example: I once told my daughter she does stupid things and I had a heart to heart talk with her after that because she thought I was calling her stupid but I wasn't. So I cleaned up with I said to her and watched what I say to her so she will never misunderstand what I say to her again.

    Back to the OP I really think your daughter needs counselling especially since unlawful things have happen to her and I agree with Unspoken21 that she might be acting out because of it. Individual and family counselling might be best. She needs you and it seems like you want to help but she doesn't want to accept it. Please look into it and if you have health insurance you can go through them for counselling if money is an issue. I hope you return and I wish you and your daughter the best.

    Somehow I think you would get better responses if you this thread was in the parenting section instead of here.
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:07 PM
    jcompton1272

    Liz28 thank you, I work very hard to be a good mother and weather anyone agrees or not trust is something earned not just given however I did give her a lot of trust and she violated that now she has to earn it back all in all she has done very well under the cirumstances but now I am becoming more and more concerned for her safety and well being before she came here she had no rules at all now she has them and I am trying to help her and teach her to be a young lady which is very hard because she does not trust me a whole lot either I work very hard to earn that trust by being honest with her and we both go to theropy and have been for about a year but it is still a long hard road. I do not always make the best choices but it is not because I am not trying. And a far as others not agreeing with me I would rather have my daughter hate me then be dead or worse and no one can tell me that they would not do anything to protect their child... and as far as me calling my daughter a sl.. t that never happened I love her and my get frustrated sometimes and my even raise my voice (not yelling) but I would never call her those kinds of names... and secondly she does not always tell the truth but that is the way she survived after being kidnapped 11 years ago and brain washed in believing I did not love her or want her so now I am trying to teach her that she does not have to lie to me that I may say no but it is because she is not making a choice that will be good for her in the end.
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:07 PM
    unspeaken21

    liz28.. Just because you are a mom it does not mean that all moms are like you...

    No mother is alike...

    And mothers can also have a way in hearing whatever they want... Ive got tones of examples and I'm glad to share them but this is not my thread...

    This child needs help.. And so do you Jcompton1272, maybe a bit more than your daughter.. Why are you so afraid that she will mess up in life?

    I disagree with liz20, the child does not need her mother on this site... this site should have been for the child so the child can speak out on her own...
    Its not right for a mom to take away everything that a child has and keep on taking it...

    Jcompton1272 you need to learn to trust your daughter...

    Don't try to play innocent on this site..

    There are 2 sides to every story.. but one is pretending to be more sweeter...

    It might seem as if I'm against you Jcompton1272, and a part of me is.. but I would love it if you and your daughter can have a better relationship...

    So I'm just going to keep answering my honest opinions because I hope they will help you out to see the way your daughter views things.. and if you really want things to get better between you two then you should care how you daughter views things...
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:08 PM
    unspeaken21
    If people are interested in hearing the other side of the story then her daughters name is:
    Mizz on her own
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:10 PM
    unspeaken21
    Can you explain how she violated your trust so I can understand you better?

    Im glad you both are going to therapy
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:28 PM
    liz28

    Here are her daughter threads if anyone wants to read them Ask Me Help Desk - Search Results

    Unspoken21 I must ask who are you to say who can or can't join this site? I think your really one sided. Both mother and daughter wants help and need it so therefore I won't be entertaing your thoughts any longer. Also, you never know if this is really her mother, I hope it really is though, because I been on this site for a while to see that sometimes one person would pretend to be different people but I hope this isn't the case. I would rather hear the opinons of parents than from someone who isn't one.

    OP what did you do or say when your dauhter inform you that she was rape? Or is this your first time reading it?
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:29 PM
    XOXOlove

    I think that you need to have more understanding and need to communicate with your daughter more. I don't think everything she said was a lie oherwise she wouldn't have come to us for help and support and kept it from you. You really should ask her about her problems even if you think she is misbehaved because she was sexually harassed by her father and people who have had this happen to them become damaged emotionaly. Just because she has been with a boy does not mean that you should read her emails and her journal and poems because you are invading her privacy and destroying her feelings even more. You have her trapped in a box and she doesn't even want to express herself by writing and doing things she likes. Just talk to her and be more understanding of her feelings. Your daughter has poured her heart out to us because you haven't been listening to her. So just listen and don't think that everything she says is a lie. Even if everything she wrote on this site was a lie it shows that something is wrong and you should help her.
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:41 PM
    A mouse
    I wasn't a bad kid myself, but I made bad choices as a teen. The worst thing I ever did was start flirting with other people, and that was enough to make my mom go insane and start monitoring everything that I did. Because of that I never had room to do anything bad. She'll hate you for it in the present, but she'll understand why when she has a daughter of her own, you have to become aware of everything that she does. Have teachers call you if she misses a class, get some eyes on the inside, spy on her. Every time she does something wrong you need to have a talk with her about it. Not an angry one! She'll yell at you most likely but you have to keep your head and talk in a calm voice. Also, don't let the conversation end on a bad note if you can end it on a good one. Find out why she does what she does and don't accept "Because I wanted to" or "Because I'm a teenager" for an answer. She, like any other teenage girl, is simply hungry for attention and according to her actions you can tell if she's not getting enough.

    To even things out I know from experience that nothing heals a teen-parent relationship like a good time at the mall. Buy a few outfits for her as often as she'll agree to go with you (if you can) and once every few times let her best friends come along too so they can see how you are and remind your daughter of how cool you are when she gets upset. Hope that helps.

    -Mouse
  • Mar 23, 2009, 01:50 PM
    liz28

    Jcompton127, how come the father had custody of your daughter instead of you for at least 11 years? How did he kidnapped her? How long was communicate lost between you and your dauggter? This might be the course of your not being able to communicate and her dislike for you.

    Since she wasn't in your care for a number of years you is like an untruder to her. A relationship will take time to form and a whole lot of care. You can't just start to be her mothe over night when you wasn't for years.

    Who knows what happen to her while she was in her father's care and she is already stating she was rape and you need to follow up on it and whoever did something to her belongs behind bars like the rest of the perverts. If my daughter came to me about this I would've reacting already. I would probably be behind bars if I found the person in question before the cops did. Do something and your daughter might be acting out because your not doing something, if you hadn't already done so. This issue should be address asap.

    I hope you come back with answers soon.
  • Mar 23, 2009, 02:32 PM
    unspeaken21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by liz28 View Post
    Here are her daughter threads if anyone wants to read them Ask Me Help Desk - Search Results

    Unspoken21 I must ask who are you to say who can or can't join this site? I think your really one sided. Both mother and daughter wants help and need it so therefore I won't be entertaing your thoughts any longer. Also, you never know if this is really her mother, I hope it really is though, because I been on this site for a while to see that sometimes one person would pretend to be different people but I hope this isn't the case. I would rather hear the opinons of parents than from someone who isn't one.

    OP what did you do or say when your dauhter inform you that she was rape? Or is this your first time reading it?

    She told me she is the mother...
    And I could be a mother as far as you know..
    But I'm not but I a biological one...

    Lady I'm not here to because a fight..
    U seem abit onesided as well, since you are not willing 2 hear what I believe...
    I have no say who is allowed in this site but the mom shouldn't be spying on her daughters every move...


    jcompton1272 all I wish is the best for you and your daughter so you don't end up in the wrong direction...
  • Mar 23, 2009, 02:59 PM
    heather831

    The way I see it, every parent has to figure things out on their own. There's no one that is perfect, there's no one that is going to give you the answer for what is right for your situation. You just have to do what you feel is right to protect your child, and at the end of the day you can look back and say "hey, i feel i did the right thing", or "maybe that didn't work so well, i'll try something new next time". Just because someone is a parent doesn't mean they automatically know what to do. I struggle with that every single day. It's a learning experience. So don't listen to people telling you that you're wrong--you just do what you need to do, and you'll have to figure it all out in the end.
    Other than that, the best advice I could give is just to sit down and have a heart to heart with her. She's old enough that you can actually talk to her now. Let her know what your feeling, tell her why you go through her stuff, let her know you're sorry, or not sorry, but most importatly let her know that you love her.
    I went through a lot of the same stuff with my mom, and I know I put her through hell, but once she actually sat me down and talked to me like I was an adult, instead of just a stupid teenager, I actually started to care a little, and now my mom is my best friend.
  • Mar 23, 2009, 04:31 PM
    Diehardrocks92
    Well by the sounds of it your just being a good mam if you think that she has a risk of hurting herself then you should look through her journals and emails but I don't think you should do it a lot maybe leave her for about a week and then if she does something like disappear for a while then check her journal and emails and teenagers are going to be awkward because they don't see that their parents are only trying to protect them just keep doing what you think is right and she's going to hate you for now because of it but when she's older and nothing bad has happened to her she will know you were just helping her keep being cruel to be kind though love she'll deal with it eventually!! :)
  • Mar 23, 2009, 06:33 PM
    XOXOlove

    Unless she is a very misbehaved child you shouldn't look through her stuff all the time. If you do at least do it discreetly without her knowing because she doesn't want you to look through her stuff. Anyway I'm actually glad you joined this site (even though it's kind of nosy)because now instead of trying to help her get away from you, we can tell you develop a better relashionship with her. I know you aren't a terrible mother. You just need to hang out with your daughter more because she doesn't think you like her. Doesn't it bother you that your daughter cries in her room because of you? Just ask her what's wrong.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 10:43 AM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by liz28 View Post
    Here are her daughter threads if anyone wants to read them Ask Me Help Desk - Search Results

    Unspoken21 I must ask who are you to say who can or can't join this site? I think your really one sided. Both mother and daughter wants help and need it so therefore I won't be entertaing your thoughts any longer. Also, you never know if this is really her mother, I hope it really is though, because I been on this site for a while to see that sometimes one person would pretend to be different people but I hope this isn't the case. I would rather hear the opinons of parents than from someone who isn't one.

    OP what did you do or say when your dauhter inform you that she was rape? Or is this your first time reading it?

    Had to spread the rep Liz but I agree with you.No one has the authority to say who can and can not be here.
    I tried to asses the thread of the daughter but it is not found.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 11:10 AM
    liz28
    Thank You! Here goes her daughter threads:
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/...28726.html,and https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/...me-317988.html
  • Mar 24, 2009, 11:12 AM
    jcompton1272
    I want everyone to know that no matter how bad the situation gets with my daughter and I, I always end our conversation with I Love you and explain to her that I am truly sorry when she is hurt by the things I do but that I do them because I Love her so much and I always tell her that I will never stop loving her and will always back her no matter what. I also explain to her that if I did not love her and want the best for her I would do nothing that is much easier to be a bad parent then it is to be a good parent. Since this last round she has calmed down some and does not seem to be so angery with me.

    I do not go through her stuff daily or even weekly only when I have reason to be concerned because even though I have told her several times she can talk to be about anything even if I will not like it and may even get upset or angry I still love her and will get over it I know that she still does not talk to me about everything like when she said she was going to hurt herself she seemed fine and happy I had no idea she was hurting so if she will not talk to me how am I to know if I do not check things out. I check her emails not because I don't trust her but because she is to trusting of strangers sometimes and I worry about her dad being in contact with her and causing her more harm.

    My daughters dad and I had joint custody he was the custodial parent because I was going through major depression mainly because he was so mentally abusive to me. One day I went to pick her up and they were gone I searched for them but could not find them I finally found her on myspace 10 years later.

    When she told me what he had been doing I never questioned her I went straight into action it has been very hard on the whole family but we are very slowly getting through it.

    I hope I have answered everyone's questions.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 12:39 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jcompton1272 View Post
    I want everyone to know that no matter how bad the situation gets with my daughter and I, I always end our conversation with I Love you and explain to her that I am truly sorry when she is hurt by the things I do but that I do them because I Love her so much and I always tell her that I will never stop loving her and will always back her no matter what. I also explain to her that if I did not love her and want the best for her I would do nothing that is much easier to be a bad parent then it is to be a good parent. since this last round she has calmed down some and does not seem to be so angery with me.

    I do not go through her stuff daily or even weekly only when I have reason to be concerned because even though I have told her several times she can talk to be about anything even if I will not like it and may even get upset or angry I still love her and will get over it I know that she still does not talk to me about everything like when she said she was going to hurt herself she seemed fine and happy I had no idea she was hurting so if she will not talk to me how am I to know if I do not check things out. I check her emails not because I don't trust her but because she is to trusting of strangers sometimes and I worry about her dad being in contact with her and causing her more harm.

    My daughters dad and I had joint custody he was the custodial parent because I was going through major depression mainly because he was so mentally abusive to me. One day I went to pick her up and they were gone I searched for them but could not find them I finally found her on myspace 10 years later.

    When she told me what he had been doing I never questioned her I went straight into action it has been very hard on the whole family but we are very slowly getting through it.

    I hope I have answered everyones questions.

    This is a very complicated situation and I believe those years when your daughter was being told you did not care for her have impacted her on a deep emotional level.I am happy to hear you have opted for therapy so you can begin the healing.

    I Have Snooped on my kids when I had reason to believe they were hiding something from me that could be potentially dangerous to them.. I felt I had no choice,it is my job to protect them.

    If I discover that my child is getting mixed up with drugs,I am going to be pro active and prevent possible arrest or even death.At that point I would not gives a rats behind if I invaded their space or not..

    What price are we willing to pay as parents? I think if you have a child in trouble ,you do whatever it takes to make sure they are safe.If invading some privacy saves a child then it is worth it.

    In this case the end does justify the means.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 12:44 PM
    artlady

    To the OP,I just want to add that when you post on the *teen* board ,you will get teens responding so I think you will find some bias here on some replies as they are teenagers.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 01:08 PM
    sGt HarDKorE

    Here is my view on it: I would almost think you are my mom however, she can't get on a computer even if it was to save a life. Let me tell you why I sometimes do things and hopefully it will help. Well let me just explain what my mom is like, and from the looks of it, I think you will really relate to her.

    My mom is a hard worker and a single parent. She will work as long as she physically can. When she had both hips replaced, she was in work the next week. She could not afford to take off work. She has 3 kids (including me). Our father does not help at all in any way anymore. When she was a kid her dad use to abuse her mom and was a big drinker and I guess everything was really bad, we don't really talk about it. But anways my point is, she tries to not let that happen to us. She tries to check in on me and my brother and our sister every few hours and makes sure she knows who we are with and everything about that person. She practically does a background check on everyone we know by asking questions about them. She wants us to do really well in school so she enforces study, study, study, study. In her opinion and maybe it is the correct one, she is being a great parent and even to me it sounds like it. And to be honest she really is. However, from my perspective, I got so sick of being treated like I can't do anything for myself. And unfortunately, I do things to make her think I'm doing bad things. Ex: not answering my phone for the whole time I'm gone or something, or locking my door when I know she's going to think I'm trying to hide something. For a while, I felt depressed and even felt suicidal. But I finally talked to someone on my own (I new if I told my mom, she would then get involved and never let me speak) It felt so good to talk to someone and have them listen. My mom is always so busy trying to keep us living under a roof and having food, she doesn't have time to just listen. And if she does, if I was to ever say anything such as admit trying drugs or something she would yell at me and then punish me. Instead, or at least in my opinion, if she would have just talked to me about the consequences, and allowed me to talk about why I tried them, and allowed me to express my feelings, I would be more comfortable and wouldn't do them again. Which I don't anyway because they do not interest me, however, my brother does drugs. To sum this up, I think giving your kid more independence, she will learn the importance or her actions. As soon as I learned my mom was holding me back unintentionally with her love and fear, life has been so fun and I am doing everything I ever wanted. If you want her to talk to you about things, which in the end could solve her bad behavior, just listen. I do not know if you react badly to her when she does bad things but try a new approach. Just listen, explain to her that you were once tempted to try bad things, and explain to her the consequences of the things you did. I think a lot of parents forget that they were kids. I also think adults try to shield their kids from bad things that happened in their own life, however, they forget those things made them who they are as an adult today. Im not sure if any of this makes sense, I tend to not connect my ideas that well, but hopefully you get something.

    Just a suggestion to, I don't think invading her personal space is the best idea. I can't say I wouldn't do the same, but again from my point of view, its difficult on you when your own parents don't even trust you. And now that you are reading her personal thoughts, she will most likely not write anymore, and then who will she talk too? I simply recommend sending her to talk to someone who she feels comfortable with. Someone mentioned above, have individual AND family counseling. That is the best way to do it. She may be afraid to admit certain feelings when your around, so give her personal space. Like me, she probably acts out to make you angry. As I'm writing this, I realized whenever I do/did things to cause my mom to get suspicious. She would always confront me, and then out of angier we would admit things, and true feelings would occasionally come out. I think I needed a way to express my feelings and her attention, and what's a better way than getting someone mad if they won't listen normally.

    Good Luck :)
  • Mar 24, 2009, 05:06 PM
    unspeaken21
    jcompton1272...

    Why is your daughter saying such mean things about you and really believing them?


    I might have been very harsh before and very negative.. but growing up I was never surrounded by any positive figure.. so I took my personal experiences and related them to you..

    I guess the best thing you are doing now is telling her you love her.. Showing your daughter and all of your kids affection can really improve your relationship with your children. It can help decrease the level of insecurity they posses.. but just make sure your actions are aligned with what you are saying..

    A mother and daughter relationship to me, and many other people, is the most important bond, so I tend to take it very seriously...

    I think you should protect your daughter, but not by reading her diaries..

    It is hard being a mom, if there is one thing I have learned, it is to not have a favorite child (I have come across many parents who have favorites).. Im not saying you do, but what if your daughter thinks you do... Could it be possible your daughter senses that you favor your other children more than her? Usually teenagers and younger kids notice whether a parent is showing a kid more attention than the other.. It wouldn't be surprising if she possibly felt that way since she's been living with you for about a year, and to get adjusted to an environment does take time.. (im assuming you have more children because she mentioned you do)

    I sympathize with your daughter... if there is anything I hate most in this life it is being sexually harassed.. it's a good thing you left your husband when you did.. its just a sad shame your daughter was abused and now has do live with that memory..

    If your daughter is acting out too much just know that she still has not healed from what that evil man did to her...
  • Mar 24, 2009, 09:54 PM
    jcompton1272
    I really want to thank everyone for there help... When I first came her I angery because I am trying very hard to be a good mother to all of my children and to have one that tells such hurtful and untrue things on me just plain hurt...

    I Think my daughter tells some of these things sometimes because she get mad and wants others to mad to. Other times I think she is not 100% sure that I really do the things I do because I love her. This baby has been through so much when she came here she had about 5 days of cloths (most of which were very old and to small) she had not been to a dentist or a doctor in about 6 years (she had 9 cavities and needed glass) she was failing in school had been arrested on drugs, drinking and having sex, She lost everything when she came here she did not get to say good bye to friends and family and she landed in a place were there are rules and people that truly love her and support but I don't think she knows what to do with that. Here dad lied, abused and manipulated her and in turn she did what ever she wanted because he did not want her to tell on him... She can't manuplate me that way because even though I am human and have not done everything right I have not given her any ammunition to use against me. Her dad moved her over 30 times in 11 years so I work very hard to give her stability. At this point I know she still smokes on occasion but I don't think she is doing drugs or drinking now and she is on the A-B honor roll she is in the ROTC AND ON THE RIFLE TEAM and I was so proud (I cried)when she receive 2 awards for her hard work. My biggest fear now is that if she will not talk to me for what ever reason that I will let her down and she will give up and go back to doing the things she was doing before. I try to let her make a lot of choices for herself but at the same time try to guide her by reminding her that all choices come with consaquences and I will even let her make choice that are not always a good one so long has there is not a very long term hurt that will come with it and believe me when she gets to the point where she feels safe to come and talk to me about things I will not go through her things but I truly do check because she is very beautiful and bright and if she can learn to make better choices than she had in the past then she can do and become anything she choose and I am not just saying that because I am her mother I am saying it because it is completely true and not matter what choices she makes I will always be there to support her but I still do not want her to be hurt anymore than she already has.

    Also someone ask if she could feel that I my other childern are my favoites the answer is sometimes maybe even though I spend as much time with her as I can (and not just in theropy) my youngest son has had some sever emotional and physical problems that required a lot of my attition at the same time she came to live with us at one point I had to go to school with my son everyday or they would not let him come to school. He is now on medication and is doing much much better and I thought she was to I actualluy took a sigh of relief and then she went to school and told her friends how mean I was to her because I would not let her go to a party in the middle of the night and then told them she was going to hurt herself now I am on alert all over again until that happened I had not been checking on her quite so much other knowing where she was and who she was with and making sure an adult was present when she went to her boyfriends house. I guess it will go away as I get so I feel I can trust her again not to lie to me or sneak around.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 10:22 PM
    jcompton1272
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by unspeaken21 View Post
    can you explain how she violated your trust so i can understand you better?

    Im glad you both are going to therapy

    1st she went to school after I would not let her go to a party in the middle of the night that was on again off again and told people that I was mean to her and that she was going to hurt herself later she said she had been struggling for a while but she led me to believe she was fine so now unless I check I am not sure weather she is OK or not because even if I ask she is not always telling the truth then less than a week later she told me she had rifle practice but she did not realize I had answered the phone and was talking something about her boyfriend who is not on the rifle team and it made be a little suspisious so I called to check and there was no rifle team practice that day when I confronted her about it she lied on the teacher that told me there was no practice and because I tried to believe her I was going to school that Monday and have a fit forantly she came clean before that happened and then after getting off grounding for lying to me about the rifle team she ask me to let her and a girlfriend go to the movies so I took them and even paid for her friend the friends mother called wanting to know if she was with me and my daughter because the mother was told the friend was somewhere else so I went to make sure everything was on the up and up and found both girls on the side of the building with boys my daughter apparently called her boyfriend as soon as I left and had him and his friend meet them there (there was an insident with the boyfriend and I would not let them see each other till I talked to his mother) I had talked to her that day I would have let her gone to the movies with her friend and her boyfriend if she has ask but she did not instead she was sneaking around the side of the building. Maybe I am a little over protective but I just don't want her to be hurt again or get herself in situations where she can be and some how I have to get her to understand that sometimes the answer maybe no but it is always better to truthfully talk to me then lie and sneak
  • Mar 24, 2009, 10:23 PM
    liz28

    You sound like your doing everything in your power to help your daughter. Even though the road might be bumpy with twists and turns your staying in there regardless of her kicking and screaming. I commend you for that and hope that you stay strong and help your daughter anyway possible how you been doing. Your going get through to her. Look at the good improvements thus far.

    From time to time she might act out especially since her past was so dark but you stand tall and strong while showing her tlc. No matter what she does I believe your daughter stills loves you and deep down is happy that you do what you do even though from time to time she doesn't want to follow the rules.

    Stay in there for her and I think you're a good mom. Wish more was like you because I see some mothers that are quick to just give up because it's easy or because they don't to deal with him or her. You ever saw that commercial that saids "It's 10pm do you know where your children are?", sadly some parents don't.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 10:36 PM
    jcompton1272
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sGt HarDKorE View Post
    Here is my view on it: I would almost think you are my mom however, she can't get on a computer even if it was to save a life. Let me tell you why I sometimes do things and hopefully it will help. Well let me just explain what my mom is like, and from the looks of it, i think you will really relate to her.

    My mom is a hard worker and a single parent. She will work as long as she physically can. When she had both hips replaced, she was in work the next week. She could not afford to take off work. She has 3 kids (including me). Our father does not help at all in any way anymore. When she was a kid her dad use to abuse her mom and was a big drinker and i guess everything was really bad, we don't really talk about it. But anways my point is, she tries to not let that happen to us. She tries to check in on me and my brother and our sister every few hours and makes sure she knows who we are with and everything about that person. She practically does a background check on everyone we know by asking questions about them. She wants us to do really well in school so she enforces study, study, study, study. In her opinion and maybe it is the correct one, she is being a great parent and even to me it sounds like it. And to be honest she really is. However, from my perspective, I got so sick of being treated like i can't do anything for myself. And unfortunately, i do things to make her think im doing bad things. Ex: not answering my phone for the whole time im gone or something, or locking my door when i know shes going to think im trying to hide something. For a while, i felt depressed and even felt suicidal. But i finally talked to someone on my own (I new if i told my mom, she would then get involved and never let me speak) It felt so good to talk to someone and have them listen. My mom is always so busy trying to keep us living under a roof and having food, she doesn't have time to just listen. And if she does, if i was to ever say anything such as admit trying drugs or something she would yell at me and then punish me. Instead, or at least in my opinion, if she would have just talked to me about the consequences, and allowed me to talk about why i tried them, and allowed me to express my feelings, i would be more comfortable and wouldn't do them again. Which i don't anyways because they do not interest me, however, my brother does drugs. To sum this up, i think giving your kid more independence, she will learn the importance or her actions. As soon as i learned my mom was holding me back unintentionally with her love and fear, life has been so fun and I am doing everything i ever wanted. If you want her to talk to you about things, which in the end could solve her bad behavior, just listen. I do not know if you react badly to her when she does bad things but try a new approach. Just listen, explain to her that you were once tempted to try bad things, and explain to her the consequences of the things you did. I think a lot of parents forget that they were kids. I also think adults try to shield their kids from bad things that happened in their own life, however, they forget those things made them who they are as an adult today. Im not sure if any of this makes sense, i tend to not connect my ideas that well, but hopefully you get something.

    Just a suggestion to, I don't think invading her personal space is the best idea. I can't say i wouldn't do the same, but again from my point of view, its difficult on you when your own parents don't even trust you. And now that you are reading her personal thoughts, she will most likely not write anymore, and then who will she talk too? I simply recommend sending her to talk to someone who she feels comfortable with. Someone mentioned above, have individual AND family counseling. That is the best way to do it. She may be afraid to admit certain feelings when your around, so give her personal space. Like me, she probably acts out to make you angry. As im writing this, i realized whenever i do/did things to cause my mom to get suspicious. She would always confront me, and then out of angier we would admit things, and true feelings would occasionally come out. I think I needed a way to express my feelings and her attention, and whats a better way than getting someone mad if they won't listen normally.

    Good Luck :)

    I really admire you and your mother, as mother I know that most of us just want the best for our kids and sometimes I worry that I make my mistakes as a parent because I was such a wild child and not only did my bad choices hurt me but they hurt my kids and to some extent still do and I don't want my kids to experance the hurt I caused myself and my kids because of my bad choices so I am more protective and maybe a little more suspisious but I tell my daughter all the time it is not because I want to make her life misarable but because I am afraid for her and I want her to be happy not just today or tomorrow but for the rest of her life. I know I can't wrap her in cotton and protect her from everything bad but I can't help but try.
  • Mar 24, 2009, 10:51 PM
    jcompton1272
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XOXOlove View Post
    unless she is a very misbehaved child you shouldn't look through her stuff all the time. if you do at least do it discreetly without her knowing because she doesn't want you to look through her stuff. anyway i'm actually glad you joined this site (even though it's kind of nosy)because now instead of trying to help her get away from you, we can tell you develop a better relashionship with her. i know you aren't a terrible mother. you just need to hang out with your daughter more because she doesn't think you like her. doesn't it bother you that your daughter cries in her room because of you? just ask her what's wrong.

    She is not an extremely misbehaved child most of the time that is why I am so worried now in the beging it was horriable but she has much improved and it kills me every time she cries but I can't give in to her every time she cries and when I know about I will tell her I am sorry she is so upset and if it something that I said or done that hurts her feeling I will apoligze but it is something where she just did not get her way then I tell her I am sorry she is hurt but sometimes the answer has to be no because it is in her best interest and try to explain my reasons for saying no sometimes that helps and sometimes it doesn't but I do try
  • Mar 25, 2009, 04:54 AM
    shazamataz
    I would be furious at my mother if she read my private thoughts that I had written down in my journal.
  • Mar 25, 2009, 07:03 AM
    unspeaken21
    Its good when you write about your daughters actions...

    She is not stable because of her past..

    When she was living with her father she had no rules,
    But when she came to live with you she got rules...

    She got so used to living her life with no rules that its hard for her to adjust to having rules at this time.. . So maybe this can explain her actions..
    No rules was probably her comfort zone and when they were taken away things just changed for her...

    That's why she lies, so she can get what she want, otherwise she knows she wouldn't..

    In time things will hopefully change, in the mean time you should try to make her be surrounded by positive people..
  • Mar 30, 2009, 09:27 AM
    mizz_on_her_own

    Yes this is my mother and no I do not lie A lot as though you have come to believe. She has misunderstood some of the things that went on. I was never arressted for drug alcohol or sex it was fr domestic violence.
  • Mar 30, 2009, 09:34 AM
    liz28

    Why were you arrested for domestic violence? That isn't good.
  • Mar 30, 2009, 12:42 PM
    XOXOlove
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mizz_on_her_own View Post
    yes this is my mother and no I do not lie A lot as though you have come to believe. She has misunderstood some of the things that went on. I was never arressted for drug alchohol or sex it was fr domestic violence.

    Thanks for joining in. I was afraid that that you might not come back. Now we can all figure this out together:o
  • Apr 1, 2009, 06:10 AM
    mizz_on_her_own

    I wasn't but I'm going to try to work this out. I was arrested for domestic violenece for punching 17 holes in my home and breaking 2 doors and for getting in a actual pysical fight with my grandmother
  • Apr 1, 2009, 08:47 AM
    mizz_on_her_own

    I was also arrested for being reported a runaway over 3 times. That is the thing that I think my mom misunderstands. I do try to do my best but it is in a way of to where no one can see until I've completed what I was trying to work on and that is the way it's always been for me. No I didn't want to kill myself over the STUPID party. It was because my memories of my dad kept growing stronger and I could barely bear it. Though she has it in her mind that the party is the reaon when it's not. Now it is growing harder because I have now known my mom for a full year today (april 1) and in 8 days will be the day the secret was revealed and I had to go to a youth shelter and go to court and a lot of other things. So it is difficult for me and I HAVE come a LONG way from what I used to be and I don't think my mom realizes that but maybe she does I'm not sure but all I know is that I am EXTREMELY hurt.
    No I am not acting out to hurt her. Un;ess, I'm doing it subconciously. I don't think she chooses a favorite because I understand that My little brother and sister need her a little more than me. I have grown to accept the fact that I can't change my mom's mind about the way she feels about things. But I do NOT manipulate her. I'm not even sure how to manipulate people. It's complicated to explain. I know that I have manipulated people before but I don't know how I do it, it's like I do it unintentionally. I have apoligized mulitple times to my mom for EVERYTHING. She says that she understands but I don't believe she does. I just REALLY need a mother/best friend. It seems like since I got here she has been nothing but mother mother mother and I want her to also be somewhat like my best friend when I am doing nothing wrong.
    Is that too much to ask or is that not how a family is supposed to work?
  • Apr 1, 2009, 09:24 AM
    liz28

    No, that isn't. You and your mother need to have an open talk about your feelings. And I think that started here.
  • Apr 3, 2009, 08:00 AM
    mizz_on_her_own

    Well it is EXTREMELY difficult
  • Apr 3, 2009, 10:31 AM
    unspeaken21
    Ya, it is really difficult..
    But your mother got you back as a teenager, so she never had time to transition into your teenage years..

    You both need to adapt to your new lives.. it takes time, but I think you both can make it..

    From what your writing you seem like a strong girl... Keep that up :)
  • Apr 4, 2009, 12:42 AM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mizz_on_her_own View Post
    yes this is my mother and no I do not lie A lot as though you have come to believe. She has misunderstood some of the things that went on. I was never arressted for drug alchohol or sex it was fr domestic violence.

    Sweetheart no one here is out to get you ,believe me I always hear both sides when I can.

    Come back and talk ,you and Mom ,maybe we can be the objective party that you need to make some good changes towards loving each other as Mom and daughter ,as I know you both do.
    I can feel the love from here.
  • Apr 4, 2009, 05:58 AM
    jiniliya

    You have not done anything wrong.You are scared that you will lose your daughter but didn't spy on her make her sit beside you didn't ask her anything just hug her & tell her that you are there for her.In any situation or circumstances you will be on her side whether she is right or wrong.Behave with her as a friend didn't be possessive & if she tels you everything didn't over react on that matter mistakes do happen but we have to except our children.I hope everything will be fine.
  • Apr 7, 2009, 08:22 AM
    mizz_on_her_own

    Well I have no idea as to if my mom will get back on here. I think she has begun to trust me again but I have no idea. I finally told her the way I was feeling but for security I did it in front of my counsler. I have also told my counsler that she shouldn't push me so hard and she has agreed to not push to hard and to just help me ease my way into the process of healing.
    But what I told my mom was that I don't just want a mother. I want a BEST FRIEND when I am doing NOTHING wrong! She told me that it could happen. I told her also that I don't always want to go to her, that it would make it easier if she occasionally came to me and asked me how I was doing on a regular basis. So she agreed to come and talk with me once a week if she can. When I heard her say that I felt some relief. I haven't yet told her that because I'm not sure how to go about doing that. I am truly trying but once again like I have mentioned above I go about hiding my attempts to change until I accomplish it.

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