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  • Apr 27, 2009, 02:00 PM
    gorgeouslady

    weezing,exactly what lotion are you using?I know you using the gluta-blend soap but when I checked amira magic website she has lots of lotions by different brands.can you state the brand you using?thanks and good to know the products are working for you.I'll definitely try amira magic when am done with fair and white
  • Apr 27, 2009, 02:13 PM
    gorgeouslady
    weezing,is the lotion called "skin therapy white instant effect?"(glutathione kojic blend)
  • Apr 27, 2009, 02:26 PM
    weezing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gorgeouslady View Post
    weezing,is the lotion called "skin therapy white instant effect?"(glutathione kojic blend)

    Yes that's the lotion and if your using all over I think you should get 2 and the good thing about buying the lotion and the soap is you get free shipping!! Lol
  • Apr 28, 2009, 03:45 PM
    Hellosunshine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weezing View Post
    yes thats the lotion and if your using all over i think you should get 2 and the good thing about buying the lotion and the soap is you get free shipping!!! lol

    I couldn't find it anywhere! I typed that in Google. Are you sure that's the name?
  • Apr 28, 2009, 06:23 PM
    gorgeouslady

    Hellosunshine,this is the link for the lotion and soap weezing is using

    Glutathione Secret - Skin Whitening Effects & Beauty Care

    And this is the link for the soap

    Glutathione Secret - Skin Whitening Effects & Beauty Care

    Same website of course but I just put the link so it'd be easier for you
  • Apr 28, 2009, 07:04 PM
    lighterrr

    If bioclair is working for you then stick with it, not everyone has had your luck when using it.
  • Apr 29, 2009, 06:49 AM
    Hellosunshine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gorgeouslady View Post
    hellosunshine,this is the link for the lotion and soap weezing is using

    Glutathione Secret - Skin Whitening Effects & Beauty Care

    and this is the link for the soap

    Glutathione Secret - Skin Whitening Effects & Beauty Care

    same website ofcourse but i just put the link so it'd be easier for you

    Gorgeouslady thanks 100000%!! It looks promising. I take vitamin c with rose hips in it.
  • Apr 29, 2009, 07:47 AM
    PunkChic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weezing View Post
    yes thats the lotion and if your using all over i think you should get 2 and the good thing about buying the lotion and the soap is you get free shipping!!! lol

    Weezing, how are the products working for you then?
  • Apr 29, 2009, 10:49 AM
    galfijej
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by weezing View Post
    yes thats the lotion and if your using all over i think you should get 2 and the good thing about buying the lotion and the soap is you get free shipping!!! lol

    Hi weezing,

    Does your bottle of lotion have the ingredient list on it? If so, any chance you can post the ingredient list? Also, how does the lotion feel? Is it light, heavy, moisturizing or drying? Thanks! All the best.
  • Apr 29, 2009, 11:49 AM
    Cubano Kid

    Ok, today I couldn't decide which soap to buy. So I bought two of them, the first one is called "Ambi Complexion cleansing bar". And the second one is called "Coconut and papaya soap". I have no idea which of these I should use first. Any tips or ideas?
  • Apr 29, 2009, 12:25 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cubano Kid View Post
    Ok, today I couldn't decide which soap to buy. So I bought two of em, the first one is called "Ambi Complexion cleansing bar". And the second one is called "Coconut and papaya soap". I have no idea which of these I should use first. Any tips or ideas?

    I never heard of cocunut as a lightner, but I know that papaya is good
  • Apr 29, 2009, 10:36 PM
    traygeaux

    I just started using licorice soap and papaya/kojic acid soap this week... I'm already seeing good results!

    P.S. I use 85spf sunblock... rly a must if you don't want to set yourself back
  • Apr 29, 2009, 11:46 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by traygeaux View Post
    i just started using licorice soap and papaya/kojic acid soap this week...i'm already seeing good results!

    P.S. i use 85spf sunblock...rly a must if you don't want to set yourself back

    I'm using a 3 in 1 soap

    It has kojic acid, placenta and papaya, its good I get really good peeling with it:)
  • Apr 30, 2009, 02:41 AM
    topace

    Lighterr, where did you buy that soap? Do you think it will work for hyperpigmentation?
  • Apr 30, 2009, 03:47 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topace View Post
    lighterr, where did you buy that soap? Do you think it will work for hyperpigmentation?

    Ill pm you where I get my soaps from, for the hyper-pigmentation I think you should set up regimen if your scared of hq you can go all natural. i.e 3 in 1 whitening soap, retina, kojic acid cream etc
  • Apr 30, 2009, 03:49 AM
    topace

    Thanks, Im already using kojic acid cream, kojic acid soap, taking vit c. and using suncreen. But it don't really peel me or anything.
  • Apr 30, 2009, 03:53 AM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by topace View Post
    Thanks, Im already using kojic acid cream, kojic acid soap, taking vit c. and using suncreen. But it dont really peel me or anything.

    Yeah the natural stuff takes time to work, because I have no patience with skin lightening I used high hq to lighten really fast and it worked for me
  • Apr 30, 2009, 03:54 AM
    topace

    HQ isn't available in the UK so I can't use it
  • Apr 30, 2009, 01:13 PM
    traygeaux
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    im using a 3 in 1 soap

    it has kojic acid, placenta and papaya, its good i get really good peeling with it:)

    What is placenta? Lol (omg, I'm like an 8 yr old) :rolleyes:
  • Apr 30, 2009, 01:49 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by traygeaux View Post
    what is placenta? lol (omg, i'm like an 8 yr old) :rolleyes:

    Lol its OK, placenta is a lightening ingredient suppose to be all natural, the soap is really good since I have been using it I peel like everyday.:)
  • Apr 30, 2009, 02:01 PM
    Gr8stuff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lighterrr View Post
    i never heard of cocunut as a lightner, but i know that papaya is good

    I don't think coconut is a skin lightener, but it is anti-bacterial; so I'm guessing it'll help with acne and pimples...

    Oh by the way, isn't placenta like the "bag" the babies live in while they are in their mom's tummy and also referred to as the after-birth? :confused: Or is there something else called placenta? :confused:(sorry for the ignorance... lol)... if so,how could it lighten skin?? :eek:
  • Apr 30, 2009, 02:25 PM
    lighterrr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gr8stuff View Post
    I don't think coconut is a skin lightener, but it is anti-bacterial; so I'm guessing it'll help with acne and pimples...

    Oh btw, isn't placenta like the "bag" the babies live in while they are in their mom's tummy
    babies live in the "gestational sac" with is a sac that has the baby and amniotic fluid, hence when your water breaks the sac has ruptured
    and also referred to as the after-birth??:confused:
    yes it is know as the afterbirth, in a normal delivery it comes out after the baby
    Or is there something else called placenta?? :confused:(sorry for the ignorance....lol)...if so,how could it lighten skin???:eek:

    The placenta is the bridge that connects the mom and fetus, the placenta help takes control of the production of the pregnancy hormone @ 16 weeks gestation in the mom and gives the baby the nutrients it needs to survive in utero.

    Here's the wikipedia description of placenta

    Placenta is an organ present in eutherian mammals that connects the developing fetal tissues to the uterine wall. The placenta supplies the fetus with maternal nutrients, and allows fetal waste to be disposed of via the maternal kidneys. The word placenta comes from the Latin for cake, from Greek plakóenta/plakoúnta, accusative of plakóeis/plakoús - πλακόεις, πλακούς, "flat, slab-like"[1][2], referring to its round, flat appearance in humans. Protherial (egg-laying) and metatherial (marsupial) mammals produce a choriovitelline placenta that, while connected to the uterine wall, provides nutrients mainly derived from the egg sac. The placenta develops from the same sperm and egg cells that form the fetus, and functions as a fetomaternal organ with two components, the fetal part (Chorion frondosum), and the maternal part (Decidua basalis).


    The placenta in the 3 in 1 whitening soap is basically the extracted plant placenta that has a natural whitening affect on the skin, put into a soap.

    Hope this helps
  • May 13, 2009, 11:13 PM
    Indian Princess
    OK - after a thorough research on this Tonique product, I found the following information.

    1. Tonique seem very scary and scammy to me. Take a look at the before and after page of the site All Natural Skin Whitening Pic's

    2.All the pages on the entire site can be traced to back several different websites.

    3. Tonique website whois is registered to a
    Simone Drummond
    4815 Bayonne Ave
    Apt CN
    Baltimore MD 21206.

    4. No company information, no product sizes etc.
    5. The toll free number is forwarded to a sprint pcs cell phone number 443.768.5024

    6. The before and after photos are stolen from the following websites:
    a. Pallid Skin Whitening Formula - Ultimate Complexion lightening tablets

    b.Magic Potions | Skin Whitening Experts | Skin Lightening Products
    module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=7

    7. All the product reviews were written on the same date.
    8. Most of post/blogs on the products are posted by a "MARSHA" yet when I contacted the toll free number a "MARSHA" spoke to me. My opinion = STAY AWAY.

    Buyer beware there are so many RED flags that SCREAMS SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.





    QUOTE=galfijej;1692178]Hi abbycute,

    If you don't mind my asking, why did you stop using Fair and Flawless? I've read others say it was way too expensive, or that results were not consistent (as I believe member MAHARANI stated in other threads). Did you feel the same way?

    I took a look at the Tonique website, and it appears they sell mostly the same products as Fair and Flawless. I say this because some information from the Tonique website is EXACTLY the same as from the Fair and Flawless (F&F) website. Here are some examples:

    EXAMPLE #1: Customer service information

    Link from Tonique: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products
    Link from FNF: Fair and Flawless | Customer Service

    I notice the language is identical, except it says "Tonique" instead of "Fair and Flawless" where applicable, or vice versa.

    EXAMPLE #2: Ingredient lists for Facial Lightening Cream

    Ingredients of Tonique 10x Intense Skin Whitening Cream:
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of F&F Facial Lightening Cream:
    Source: Facial Lightening Cream

    Purified Sea Water, Aloe vera gel, hops extract,rosemary leaves extract, sage leaves extract, ginseng extract, sea ware, lemon extract, hazelnut oil, oilgopeptide, palmitoyl tetrapeptide-7, squalene,lactic acid, Sepi-white msh, citric acid, vitamins A and E, alpha arbutin, metabisulfate, natural fragrance. /FONT>

    EXAMPLE #3: Ingredients for Skin Lightening Lotion

    Ingredients of Tonique Green Tea Moisturizing Whitening Lotion (Price: $59.95)
    Source: Tonique Skin Care-All Natural Skin Whitening Products

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, green tea extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, sepiwhite MSH, Vitamin A and E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid, natural fragrance

    Ingredients of Skin Soho™ "LIQUID LASER" Colada White Hand & Body Milk (Price:$79.95)
    Source: Skin Lightening Lotion | Hand and Body

    Purified seawater, aloe vera leaf juice, anthemis nobilis flower extract, symphytum leaf extract, citric grandis seed extract, undecylenoyl phenylalinne (SEPIWHITE MSH), Vitamin A, E, lactic acid, glycolic acid, methylparaben, propylparaben, mulberry extract, shea butter, rosehip extract, citric acid fragrance

    ------------------------------
    Sorry for such a long post, but I just wanted to illustrate my point that I think Tonique and Fair and Flawless are the same company, except F&F has a larger product selection? Although in some, if not all cases, the prices are lower at Tonique than F&F. Also, maybe one "notable difference" is the strength of the whitening gel. It's labelled as "10x" for Tonique vs. "5x" for F&F. And maybe Tonique doesn't fill subsequent orders with "diluted" products?

    I'd appreciate thoughts from you, as well as current and former F&F users.

    Also, on a side note, some F&F products are also sold in South Africa as "Pure Perfect" (website: Pure Perfect - Lighter with Confidence). This site gives more straightforward information to the consumer about what to expect, including possible symptoms, when using the products.

    Thank you, and continued success with your skin lightening efforts![/QUOTE]
  • May 14, 2009, 12:25 AM
    abbycute

    I just said that I use the products you don't have to. It seems like you have a lot of time on your hands if you ask me. I used F&F for a while and it was good but Tonique was just as effective if not more effective. Keep in mind I tried Makari too and Civant and I am sure I receved all my products. In my opinion this site is full of nothing but website owners trying to push their own product and discourage use of anything else. I did my research and this company (Tonique) has been around for a while. A lot of things work I am just saying this is what I use.
  • May 14, 2009, 11:57 PM
    mepk5
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XOXOlove View Post
    i like the sound on this. hq scares me. i'm still using lemons to lighten my chin and lips. a very slow process though!

    Lemons r acid! :eek:
  • May 15, 2009, 12:08 PM
    abbycute

    Hydroquinone is never the way to go! It's dangerous to your health.
  • May 15, 2009, 12:17 PM
    whiteandlight

    Abbycute that is so true! Doesn't that bioclaire stuff contain mercury? I almost tried it once but, then decided I wasn't that desperate to have my skin whitened that I would use chemicals. Btw have you tried the gel from Tonique that is what I think I am going to try next. They say it works fast.
  • May 15, 2009, 12:27 PM
    whiteandlight

    I have used hydroquinone before though. I didn't know when I started using it that it was dangerous to your health and stopped using it when I found out and my mistake but I think I did try bioclaire before too. It scares me to think that I used anything that may have endangered my health. What do you guys think of meladerm? Does it really work? I have heard mixed reviews about it. I am looking for something to mix the Tonique with to make it even stronger. :)
  • May 15, 2009, 12:28 PM
    whiteandlight
    Oh and what about Diana Stadtler (not sure if this is how it's spelled)? Has anyone tried those products?
  • May 16, 2009, 07:06 AM
    lighterrr

    I heard it does not work
  • May 16, 2009, 08:20 AM
    MAHARANI

    Have tried Diana stalder and did not find it effective.
  • May 17, 2009, 04:56 AM
    whiteandlight

    Gosh and I was actually going to try it. That's disappointing!
  • May 17, 2009, 05:11 AM
    whiteandlight

    I also did research on the Amira Magic Cream and from what I understand it is a scam and only being promoted by sellers! In my opinion if you are here to promote this product containing mercury and hydroquinone you should be banned.

    Here is a post from Amira Magic Cream Doesn't Work started by Sosodef

    Pao, don't waste your money on the magic cream. The only positive reviews on this site are from the people who are selling it. Try real products like makari or godiva. Herbal inn works well too, but some people think it might be dangerous. I have had good results with the Whiterskin cream too, but Ive heard that doesn't work on all people.
  • May 17, 2009, 05:11 AM
    whiteandlight
    I came here for honesty not people who are promoting their products
  • May 17, 2009, 05:13 AM
    whiteandlight
    Here it is https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/skin-l...ork-11690.html. I tried this product and it doesn't work.
  • May 18, 2009, 06:47 PM
    mepk5

    Lets calm down. If someone is a sellar the proof comes out eventually. We r simply expressing our experirences right. The website where I discovered a lot of sellars was DEPIG. Com.)
    Not one person accused anyone of being a sellar & the majority of them were. So let try to put the sellar accusations on hold please??
  • May 19, 2009, 10:39 AM
    ladydanielle

    White and light and the tonique lady are obvious sellers. And annoying at that. Why would they come into this thread slamming other vendors. That's not the name of this thread its to post results and give legitimate help and insight.


    Your obvious and annoying go away You promote the same way on bright skin forum. Ok you like tonique big deal. No one else does so get over it. No one wants to use it, it looks to scammmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
  • May 19, 2009, 08:57 PM
    mepk5

    What's tonique? LOL

    Ooops that is sort of obvious huh?

    Rebuttle? white & light & Tonique lady? Comments? Would u like to clear things up for us?
  • May 20, 2009, 10:52 AM
    lighterrr

    Lol, ithink the tonnique lady is also abbycute and the same lady that promoted the l'mage beverly hills stuff that does not work
  • May 20, 2009, 12:59 PM
    whiteandlight

    Why are you taking it so personally? Again, sounds like you're the owner of the site you told us to Google. You don't need glasses to see that.

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