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    Jul 22, 2013, 03:46 PM
    Can I increase my usual dose of Atenolol if my BP suddenly goes very high? 180/110.
    I take 50 mg Atenolol 1/day in the morning, and my BP is usually pretty close to normal. Today, due to stress, it spiked to 180/110, so I took a second dose at midday. It went down to 160/90 after resting. Now, early evening, it's back up to 168/100. High BP gives me a splitting headache. Can I take a third dose now? Or is there something else I can try?
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    Jul 22, 2013, 03:56 PM
    You are taking more than prescribed and risk decreased heartbeat. If your pressure is that high you need to seek medical attention, not self-dosing of medication.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 05:01 PM
    Yes, of course you are right. But it's after hours and I feel like crap, but don't want to go to the after hours clinic, when I know that it's just stress-related. I guess I was just wondering what the max dose would be, that could still be safe. But, yes, you are right, darn it. Thanks.
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    Jul 25, 2013, 02:04 PM
    No do not increase unless suggested by your doctor.
    Im on BP pills as well you may need a water pill to take along with your BP pills.
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    Jul 25, 2013, 02:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Susie U View Post
    No do not increase unless suggested by your doctor.
    Im on BP pills as well you may need a water pill to take along with your BP pills.
    And why the water pill Susie ?
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    Jul 25, 2013, 04:21 PM
    Water pills help your body get rid of unneeded water and salt through the urine. Getting rid of excess salt and fluid helps lower blood pressure
    And can make it easier for your heart to pump. I was on BP pills alone & it wasn't good enough to keep my pressure down.
    Ive been on water pills for a month now along with BP pills & my blood pressure has been good
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    Jul 25, 2013, 04:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Susie U View Post
    The water pills have helped me a lot.
    So they helped you and now you want to kill someone else? Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to advise people to take ANY medication, even over the counter stuff? You have no clue of the medical status of the person on the other side of the keyboard. Taking water pills could kill them.

    Please do not give medical advice like that.
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    Jul 25, 2013, 04:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    So they helped you and now you want to kill someone else? Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to advise people to take ANY medication, even over the counter stuff? You have no clue of the medical status of the person on the other side of the keyboard. Taking water pills could kill them.

    Please do not give medical advice like that.
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    I think I will stick to my other site you're an
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    Jul 25, 2013, 05:30 PM
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    I think I will stick to my other site your an
    Yes please do. If this is an example of the advice you give, you will not be welcome here. We put too much store on accuracy and the quality of advice here. You don't seem mature enough to fit in here.
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    Jul 25, 2013, 06:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Susie U View Post
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    I think I will stick to my other site your an
    So, because someone pointed out that your advice was dangerous, you're going to have a fit and storm off?

    If you can't handle being told when you're wrong, then yes, it's best that you leave. Other sites may not care if you give dangerous or inaccurate advice, but we're not wiki, or Yahoo, we care about the accuracy and quality of the advice given here.
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    Jul 26, 2013, 04:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    So, because someone pointed out that your advice was dangerous, you're going to have a fit and storm off?

    If you can't handle being told when you're wrong, then yes, it's best that you leave. Other sites may not care if you give dangerous or inaccurate advice, but we're not wiki, or Yahoo, we care about the accuracy and quality of the advice given here.
    I would hate to see how she posts on her 'other site' !
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    Jul 26, 2013, 04:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Susie U View Post
    Water pills help your body get rid of unneeded water and salt through the urine. Getting rid of excess salt and fluid helps lower blood pressure
    and can make it easier for your heart to pump. I was on BP pills alone & it wasn't good enough to keep my pressure down.
    Ive been on water pills for a month now along with BP pills & my blood pressure has been good
    I couldn't wait for you to post this. There is no way you should ever give a medical opinion like this if you are not qualified to do so.
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    Jul 26, 2013, 06:52 AM
    Actually "water" pills are frequently prescribed with blood pressure medications. Some BP medications include a diuretic (water pill) in the ingredients. Hydrochlorothiozide (hctz) is one such "water pill."
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    Jul 26, 2013, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Actually "water" pills are frequently prescribed with blood pressure medications. Some BP medications include a diuretic (water pill) in the ingredients. hydrochlorothiozide (hctz) is one such "water pill."
    Yes, I am on a water pill with my BP med. Mine is hydrochlorothiazide.
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    Jul 26, 2013, 07:27 AM
    It wasn't so much that her recommendation wasn't correct, it was correct in her case, but for whatever reason some doctors knowing patient history will not recommend a duiretic or 'water' pill.

    People coming here wanting medical information that we cannot give will jump at the chance of hearing someone telling them it is okay to partake of a certain med, when in fact it may be harmful for them.
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    Jul 26, 2013, 09:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    It wasn't so much that her recommendation wasn't correct, it was correct in her case, but for whatever reason some doctors knowing patient history will not recommend a duiretic or 'water' pill.

    People coming here wanting medical information that we cannot give will jump at the chance of hearing someone telling them it is okay to partake of a certain med, when in fact it may be harmful for them.

    Exactly!
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    Jul 26, 2013, 11:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    It wasn't so much that her recommendation wasn't correct, it was correct in her case, but for whatever reason some doctors knowing patient history will not recommend a duiretic or 'water' pill.

    People coming here wanting medical information that we cannot give will jump at the chance of hearing someone telling them it is okay to partake of a certain med, when in fact it may be harmful for them.
    That was my issue as well.

    Let me give an example. A while back a 12 year old child posted about some issues she/he was having. One newer poster posted that the child is schizophrenic because his sister is and she has many of the same issues as the child that posted.

    I told that poster not to diagnose, or prescribe on the site.

    Well, just a few days ago the poster that diagnosed, sent me a PM stating that the child in question had contacted him to thank him for the diagnosis, because she is indeed schizophrenic.

    Great, you got lucky and made the correct diagnosis. I never said it wasn't possible, I was simply pointing out that no one online can diagnose, or prescribe. There's no way to know the persons full history, or do an assessment, even if you're a doctor, or in the thread I'm talking about, a psychiatrist or psychologist.

    In this thread the OP has seen a doctor, and it's best that the doctor that's caring for him/her is the one that recommends further treatment or meds. Just because someone else has the same diagnosis, does not mean the same treatment will be used, and recommending the same treatment, can be dangerous. There's no way to know the OP's complete medical history from one post.

    In other words, water pills may be used for most BP cases, but for a layperson to recommend them, when the doctor hasn't, could be dangerous. It's best not to prescribe medication to anyone online, even if that medicine is the norm for their disease/illness/issue

    Those are my thoughts anyway. Hope it makes sense. :)
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    Jul 26, 2013, 11:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    That was my issue as well.

    Let me give an example. A while back a 12 year old child posted about some issues she/he was having. One newer poster posted that the child is schizophrenic because his sister is and she has many of the same issues as the child that posted.

    I told that poster not to diagnose, or prescribe on the site.

    Well, just a few days ago the poster that diagnosed, sent me a PM stating that the child in question had contacted him to thank him for the diagnosis, because she is indeed schizophrenic.

    Great, you got lucky and made the correct diagnosis. I never said it wasn't possible, I was simply pointing out that no one online can diagnose, or prescribe. There's no way to know the persons full history, or do an assessment, even if you're a doctor, or in the thread I'm talking about, a psychiatrist or psychologist.

    In this thread the OP has seen a doctor, and it's best that the doctor that's caring for him/her is the one that recommends further treatment or meds. Just because someone else has the same diagnosis, does not mean the same treatment will be used, and recommending the same treatment, can be dangerous. There's no way to know the OP's complete medical history from one post.

    In other words, water pills may be used for most BP cases, but for a layperson to recommend them, when the doctor hasn't, could be dangerous. It's best not to prescribe medication to anyone online, even if that medicine is the norm for their disease/illness/issue

    Those are my thoughts anyway. Hope it makes sense. :)
    Positively !

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