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    Radium Posts: 16, Reputation: 1
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    Feb 14, 2007, 12:07 PM
    She left and came back but something is still wrong.
    About 6 months ago my girlfriend broke up with me to pursue this long distance relationship. After about 4 months she came back to me, with a lot of work on my part. We are back together but she still is talking to this guy, and is going on a family vacation with his family and her family. Their fathers are good college buddies. Should I be able to trust her to go on a trip with him and come back to me still? Should I ask that she sever all ties with this guy? Also when we were broken up we were having sex all the time and now that we are back together she is not interested in having sex. What could this mean? IF she is not having sex with me is she getting her fill from someone else?
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    #2

    Feb 14, 2007, 12:18 PM
    Who knows if she is being sexual with someone else now but there are definitely some genuine concerns you've listed here. For me, which I realise may not be how you view this, there comes a point where it all gets too messy for me and after some serious contemplation, I realise the mess is pretty much at their end of it. Its then that I begin to pull away by making "this won't work" statements to them. If those statements are not responded to with appropriate concern, then I issue myself walking papers. I still believe there are far too many people in the world who can make it work like I can make it work to be seriously bogged down with someone who isn't willing to work it out. You seem to be the only trying to work it out in this one, which won't work in the long run. There is not working hard enough and there is working too hard -- true love is more like the Goldilocks thing, its "just right" in the middle.

    She may never tell you what's wrong but that in itself is wrong and you'll need to respond to it.
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    Feb 14, 2007, 12:31 PM
    On the surface, I'd say that you'd be crazy to trust her. She broke up with you to chase the other guy. Now she's back to the fallback guy - making you choice number two.

    A little deeper though, it could well be that in the four months she was gone she came to realize that this guy wasn't for her. Given the family ties you describe, it wouldn't be unreasonable that she is keeping communication open with him because of the upcoming family vacation.

    It's impossible for me to know which way this sways... You have to judge that for yourself. If you don't know her well enough to "be sure" it's the latter, and not just the result of "alot of work on (your) part", I would consider this relationship "a mess" as Val described.

    I think the sex question is a separate one. She is likely still emotional over what has happened, and just isn't into it right now. I don't think you can read too much into it at this point.
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    Feb 14, 2007, 01:00 PM
    Hmmmmm - lots going on here.

    I HOPE you didn't beg and plead all day long?? Bother her too much?

    This SEEMS like a one sided relationship. Are you REALLY back together or just Friends??

    IF you are really together that means this guy isn't all that. BUT, I think you're plan B!! No one waqnts to be plan B - EVER!!

    "Should i be able to trust her to go on a trip with him and come back to me still?"

    I agree with Val - give her walking papers if you don't trust her - or if she's not into it. You'll save a lot of heartache!!

    "Should i ask that she sever all ties with this guy? " Yes, I would - after a coupe months of dating again. Be cool if it's only been 2 months. Nothing shuld bother you. Dating is DATING!! She can date more than one person. Be busy, never needy - ever. Don't call so much.

    Quite frankly you should be hard to get!! Learn about this.

    "Also when we were broken up we were having sex all the time and now that we are back together she is not interested in having sex. What could this mean?" Quite frankly - are REALLY together - me thinks NO!! Talk to her about it point blank - you need the answer - BUT might not like it. Sorry - but it sounds like she's getting it from someone else. HUGE DEAL BREAKER FOR ME.


    "IF she is not having sex with me is she getting her fill from someone else?" yes.

    This gal sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
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    Feb 14, 2007, 06:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    About 6 months ago my girlfriend broke up with me to pursue this long distance relationship.
    So that right there tells you all you need to know about what she thinks of you. Your just a holding card until she finds something different. And she doesn't even view the holding card with very much value because she took a huge chance with a family friend and a long distance relationship. That's a big chance to give up a sure deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    After about 4 months she came back to me, with a lot of work on my part.
    How ironic. You didn't have to work for it at all. She would have come back anyway. You were her back up plan and you made that only too clear by working to get her. Seriously stop and think about that. SHE DUMPED YOU for another guy. YOU WORKED FOR HER to get her back. She holds all the cards here and you're a holding card until something better comes along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    We are back together but she still is talking to this guy,
    Do you have a backbone? She doesn't think so I promise you that. This woman is walking all over you. She dumps you for another guy, you beg for her back and now she's back and talking about another guy. Do you honestly think she gives a damn about you? She doesn't. She's a user and your being used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    and is going on a family vacation with his family and her family. Their fathers are good college buddies. Should i be able to trust her to go on a trip with him and come back to me still?

    She'll always come back to you. You're the back up plan. Should you be able to trust her that she won't have sex with him again. No, she will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    Should i ask that she sever all ties with this guy?
    Well you should ask that she sever all ties with you the way she's treated you. But if your going to prolong this self inflicted punishment you shouldn't ask her anything you should DEMAND it.

    I think you'll be surprised by the answer. She will tell you that you have no right to demand anything of her and how dare you say such a thing. This is going to come from the woman who dumped you for someone else, had sex with someone else, kept you on a short leash, and now brags to you about this other guy. But she'll tell you that you have no rights because she has been taught by you that you will back down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    Also when we were broken up we were having sex all the time and now that we are back together she is not interested in having sex.
    Wait, you mean to tell me this little angel used sex as a tool to keep you in check. The same woman who dumped you for another guy, who had sex with another guy, who brags about the other guy on top of all that she used sex with you to keep you in check and not wandering too far.

    Of course she did. And I know this sounds like I'm coming down on you but believe me I've been in (sadly) similar situations before. The one constant is that when you start talking about ending it or leaving they start having sex more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    What could this mean? IF she is not having sex with me is she getting her fill from someone else?
    She is either getting from somewhere else or she knows she doesn't have to give it to you because she's got you locked in for now.

    In the end your being used and she's a user.
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    Feb 14, 2007, 06:42 PM
    Dang Chuff... I wish I hadn't frivolously used up my greenie point on you this morning because I really really liked that post of yours and I can't rep you for it now. BOO HOO

    That... was some Chuffing!
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    Feb 15, 2007, 12:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    About 6 months ago my girlfriend broke up with me to pursue this long distance relationship. After about 4 months she came back to me, with a lot of work on my part. We are back together but she still is talking to this guy, and is going on a family vacation with his family and her family. Their fathers are good college buddies. Should i be able to trust her to go on a trip with him and come back to me still? Should i ask that she sever all ties with this guy? Also when we were broken up we were having sex all the time and now that we are back together she is not interested in having sex. What could this mean? IF she is not having sex with me is she getting her fill from someone else?
    Do not let her go.
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    Feb 15, 2007, 03:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jb520
    do not let her go.
    That's it?
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    Feb 15, 2007, 03:56 PM
    Ain't that much love in the whole friggin world For me to take back a woman who dumped me and had her fun and then comes back to make me jump thru hoops and then on top of everything ...............NO sex? A dog would treat you better!!!! Dump this girl so you can stop being ...............................!!!!!!!
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    Feb 15, 2007, 05:04 PM
    Don't let her go?

    Get rid of her now??

    No sex?? She's not your girlfriend - you're nothing more than her doormat. Put his gal in her place.

    U hate when these guys post and run. Dude - give us some feed back.
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    May 15, 2007, 06:30 PM
    What the hell is wrong with her?
    Ok so here is the deal, if you had read my last question you should kind of know what is up with me. If not here is the run down. Met a girl we dated had a great time she went on vacation and cheated, Twice. Came back broke up with me tried a long distance relationship with the other guy but was still F-ing me. She broke up with the other guy and we got back together, Then we stopped having sex and she said we were nothing more than best friends. Now we have been broken up for two months. I was sending her texts and she said that it should stop and we should not talk for a while before we can be friends again. So I did and then not more than a week had passed and I get a random text from her asking what I am doing. Immediately my phone rings and I answer it is her. We exchange words briefly and then she quickly hangs up. She then sends me a text apologizing for the quick hang up. I slide it off and say its OK. I then get a text saying that it really upset her to have talked to me on the phone and she doesn't know why. I slide it off with no response. Then two days after that call she sends me another text asking what I am doing and then saying she miises her friend and wants to hang out. SHE MISSES ME? What the hell is that once I begin to move on she comes back in and misses me. So I agree I hang out with her for like two hours and things are fine by me but she can't focus and just have a good time and talk to me. She was doing her laundry and cleaning her house, didn't know that's what hanging out was. I leave. Still not really thinking much about it. I send her a text asking if she wants to hang out. No response. Now my question is should I even be playing this stupid little game, And why am I still doing this. What could she possibly want out of all this I would like to know. What should I do? Be a d*ck and tell her to get lost or hang around see what happens? That's all I got help me please.
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    May 15, 2007, 06:56 PM
    She's using you. She's a player. She's emotionally insecure and immature. She just wants the "man of the moment" instead of being alone. Tell her to stop contacting you. Why in the world would you even bother if she cheated on you twice? Don't respond at all if she does attempt to reach you. She'll stop... for a few months... then she may try again when she's bored one night. Don't bite or it will start all over again.

    Hope this helps...

    Didi
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    May 15, 2007, 09:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Radium
    Ok so here is the deal, if you had read my last question you should Now my question is should i even be playing this stupid little game, And why am i sitll doing this. What could she possibly want out of all this i would like to know. What should i do? Be a and tell her to get lost or hang around see what happens? Thats all i got help me please.
    The answer to questions depend if you want drama in your life. If you do, hang around. If not, tell her to get lost.
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    May 15, 2007, 09:58 PM
    Ask yourself this question: Would I be happier with her in my life?

    I don't know you, but the answer seems to be "no" based on how you expressed your frustrations.

    It sounds like she has a toxic personality and isn't a very good person to be friends with. She cheated on you, twice. What kind of person treats a friend with that much disrespect and dishonesty? Sure, you aren't dating anymore, but loyalty is just as important in a friendship as it is in a relationship.

    The way that she is acting is immature and selfish. It sounds like when she is bored or feels bad about herself (maybe after being rejected by another guy) she runs to you for a brief self esteem boost. That isn't fair to you, you don't deserve to be used that way.

    I wouldn't waste any more time or energy on her if I were you. That includes not bothering to "tell her off" or anything of that nature. I'd do my best to ignore her calls and her text messages, no matter how desperate they seem. She probably won't go quietly into the night, but you are in the position of power here. She only can continue to bother you if you let her be a part of your life. It gets boring pretty fast when you have a one sided friendship with someone, so give her a taste of her own medicine and phase her out.

    Good luck!
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    May 15, 2007, 10:10 PM
    WAKE UP CHAMP!!

    Have a look at what is going on here when your not around she wants to know what your doing she is interested in you but your going about it the wrong way.

    Disappear and when she calls tell her your busy going out for dinner and then hang up...

    Don't let her ask who with and don't tell her tell her your not with her at the moment so she does not need to know anything in your life...

    Then when she calls next time get her over and get her pant s down and teach her an absolut lesson!! Then tell her yourve gota go out don't sit around and be friends show her that you're the man and your busy
    BUSY LIVING LIFE!!

    She won't believe it tell her you two arnt an item at the moment and your seeing what you want from now cause she's taking to longer


    DO THIS NOW> LET ME KNOW HOW YOU GO
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    May 15, 2007, 10:57 PM
    Start ignoring her. Every time she gets lonely she calls you but it has nothing to do with you she just doesn't like herself very much, so she needs somebody, anybody to be there for her. The more you keep hanging on and playing by her rules the more your going to be losing this emotional game.

    Take charge and when she texts or calls don't answer them. Let her know through your actions that you don' t need her or her stupid games. Actions speak louder then words and that might teach her to straighten up, but the reality is she did cheat on you, so she's not worth any more of your heartache and pain.
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    May 18, 2007, 05:57 AM
    Radium this girl seems to have some deep rooted problems. Why are you letting her treat you like a puppet? Seems to me like she is just stringing you along until something else comes along... she'll try it if it doesn't work out she'll give her" best friend" a call he'll run to comfort her and entertain her. There is an old saying. "pretend like it's raining and wear your rubbers" esp if you take mckenzie134 advice.
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    May 19, 2007, 02:59 PM
    Why wait and hold out hope for anything, with some one who cheated on you, and is now putting you in the friend zone, and having what she wants from you, whenever she wants it. Disappear from her life completely, and let her wonder about that.
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    May 19, 2007, 03:07 PM
    When my husband and I first got together he had a girl like her who would text randomly and when she found out he had moved on she kept it up. She kept saying she just missed her friend but didn't want to hang out when I was around. I feel sorry for the girl but I know that she isn't somebody to get involved with. At least not until she grows up a little. Go find some body who doesn't string you around and say goodbye to this girl.
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    May 22, 2007, 04:20 PM
    I agree its just hard to let go. You know.
    Yes I do know but don't let your fear of being alone, or starting over keep you in a really unhealthy relationship, guy. That's not love and there is none in your life at present so love yourself and get healthy.

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