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    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
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    Oct 11, 2011, 08:32 AM
    Lien on automoble
    I lent money to my nephew to purchase a car. In exchange I filed a lien against the title. The auto IS registered/titled to him.

    How would I move on the lien to collect my money?

    I know a lawsuit would do the trick but in NY is there a way to call or pull or whatever the lien?
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    Oct 11, 2011, 08:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    ...
    I know a lawsuit would do the trick but in NY is there a way to call or pull or whatever the lien?
    I was going to say that, in NY, you should wait for an answer from JudyKayTee, but then I saw who asked the question. I guess that wouldn't help. :)

    Normally a lienholder on an automobile can repossess it if the payments are delinquent.
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    Oct 11, 2011, 09:05 AM
    These are off the internet, so use your best judgement as to their ultimate accuracy.

    I came up with this..

    New York Repo Laws - Repossession Laws - Repo-Laws.com



    Repo Laws - Repossession Laws in New York:



    Where do I refer to for Title or License Registration?

    For state Title and License Information, refer to:



    New York Department of Motor Vehicles

    Public Service Department

    P. O. Box 2750

    Albany, New York 12220



    Telephone: (518) 486-4714.

    Security Interests:

    Shown on title held by lienholder.



    Recording Requirements:

    Per the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) adopted in September, 1964: Must be filed in the city or town where mortgagor or buyer resides at time of execution of the document. If non-resident, then where property is located.

    Recovery Requirements:

    As per the UCC, repossession is allowed and permitted as long as it is peaceful.

    Redemption Requirements:

    No redemption after foreclosure and sale.

    Deficiency Requirements:

    Permitted if provided for by the mortgage. Retaking does not bar suit for price and vice-versa. Confession of judgment notes are permitted.

    Special Motor Vehicle Provisions:

    No provisions.

    Documents Required to Transfer Ownership of Motor Vehicle:

    Title in lienholder's name and notarized Bill of Sale.



    Documents Required for Liquidation:

    If New York Title, must have a signed off MV-901 (notice of recorded lien) and a MV950 (combination bill of sale, odometer statement, affidavit of repossession). If out of state title, title must show lienholder as owner and a notarized bill of sale.



    Plates:

    Remain with the owner / debtor. Plates must be sent to DMV if the owner does not accept them and sign for them when vehicle is repossessed.



    All recovery requirements and fees are current as of 2002.




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    Repo-Laws.com does not warrant the accuracy of these Repo Laws - Repossession Laws or recovery requirements. The Repo Laws - Repossession Laws or recovery requirements listed on Repo-Laws.com are only a starting point for reference, and are not meant to be legal advice or a replacement for legal console. Please consult a repo company in your area, county, or state if you have any questions about repossession there.

    New York repo companies


    As well as

    Repossession of Goods (New York State) - New York BBB

    Repossession of Goods (New York State)


    In some situations, your personal property may be taken from you, without a judgment or court order, if you fail to make payments due and the creditor has a security interest in the property. This report summarizes the laws regulating repossession of consumer goods.

    A "security interest" is the interest the lender takes in the merchandise you purchase on credit. When you buy on credit, you agree that you will not fail to pay the lender the money you owe. Failing to pay is known as default. The "security interest" is created when you and the lender both sign a security agreement.

    What the Law Says

    New York law states that a lender or seller may take possession of the secured goods, on default, without going to court. The secured creditor also may, without removing the goods, render such goods unusable.

    Consumers should be aware of the following provisions of the law:

    1. The creditor does not have to give you any notice before coming to take away the goods.

    2. Default is defined in the contract signed by you and the seller. Typical events which will trigger default that creditors often insert in such arrangement include the following:

    Failure to pay debts as they become due;
    Failure to insure the goods;
    Bankruptcy of the debtor;
    Death of the debtor;
    Refusal to allow examination of the goods.
    The Bureau recommends that you read your agreement carefully and understand all of its terms and conditions before you sign it.

    3. It is up to the creditor to decide how and when repossession will be accomplished. The only limitations upon the creditor are that he/she not breach the peace and that he/she proceed in a reasonable manner.



    After Your Property is Repossessed


    1.The secured party (the seller or lender) may sell your property by public auction or private sale. Such sale must be reasonable in terms of the method, manner, time, place and terms.
    2.You have the right to be notified of the time and place of a public sale and/or of the time after which a private sale you goods will be made.
    3.If you have paid the seller sixty percent (60%) of the cash price for the goods he/she repossesses, or 60% of your loan from a lender, the seller or lender must sell your repossessed goods within 90 days. If you have paid less than 60% of the amounts due, the creditor does not have to sell the goods and he/she can keep both the goods and your money. When your creditor sells your repossessed goods, the money he/she receives goes first to his/her expenses from repossessing and selling the goods, then to satisfaction of the debt. If there is any money remaining, you will receive it. If your creditor did not receive enough money from the sale, he/she may sue you to make up the difference.
    4.Until the creditor sells the goods, you have the right to pay all of yourdebt plus the creditor's expenses in repossessing and preparing to sell the goods (including reasonable legal expenses). The creditor must then return the goods to you.


    Motor Vehicles and Motorcycles

    New York law requires a creditor who repossesses your motor vehicle or motorcycle to notify you personally, or by special delivery first class mail, within 24 hours of such repossession. Such notice must also be given to the nearest motor vehicle district office and must include the name and address of the person, firm, or corporation repossessing the vehicle.

    If your motor vehicle or motorcycle is being held under a lien for repairs or storage, the holder of the vehicle must return to you any registration plates for such vehicle upon your request within 24 hours. If the creditor fails to do this, he/she must personally deliver or mail by special delivery first class mail, a notice of such holding and the number plates of such motor vehicle or motorcycle to the nearest motor vehicle office.
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    Oct 11, 2011, 09:12 AM
    Additionally, if you give most towing companies a call, they can reposess and tow it for you for a fee over the straight tow charge. And might be able to help with what forms and documentation are legally required as many do this as a side business.
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    Oct 11, 2011, 10:00 AM
    Thank you. This is one of those instances where I am too close to do my own research.

    Again - thank you both.

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