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    Nov 29, 2010, 05:51 PM
    How can I trace an open ground?
    When I replaced an old porch outlet with a GFCI the unit tripped as soon as I connected the downstream load wires.. There are no other outlets on the circuit, only a number of ceiling light fixtures in the two adjoining rooms. What should I look for? Also, is there any chance that an undetected ground fault could add to my electric bill over time?
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    Nov 30, 2010, 07:13 AM

    There is no reason to have GFI protection for light fixtures, so the GFI should be connected that does not protect these lights.

    There can be a accidental neutral ground connection in the downstream circuit causing the tripping.
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    Dec 1, 2010, 11:35 AM
    Thanks for the reply. I know GFCI is not needed for lights... I just mentioned that for except one other outlet that tests "correct" the only other things on that circuit are ceiling lights/fans, one with a rheostat switch. Also, the wiring is old flexible metal bx without a ground wire. I assume the metal sheath provides grounding?
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    Dec 2, 2010, 06:28 AM
    The metal sheathing of BX cable is allowed to be the equipment ground.

    With those items, fans, lights, etc on a GFI circuit, clearly one has a ground fault.
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    Dec 2, 2010, 08:25 AM

    This is an exterior receptacle and if the area is subject to water The GFCI is appropriate. TK is correct, your GFCI is doing its job, you have a fault somewhere.

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