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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:14 AM
    Net Force with aircraft.
    An Airplane weighing 12000N is in a 30deg bank turn. The wings are producing 12000N of lift.
    Compute the net forces along the vertical and horizon axis.
    Compute vertical and horizontal accelerations
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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:19 AM

    Have a quick sketch of what is happening to your airplane. Break down the forces into components parallel and perpendicular to the vertical and you'll get the net force by adding/subtracting the vectors, and from there, you can use F=ma to find the acceleration.

    Post what you get! :)
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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:38 AM

    EDIT: Sorry, didn't see your picture. Could you try avoiding using the comment button please and use the answer this question box? Thanks. I'm looking at what you've done now...
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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:41 AM
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    I don't know what to do from there. By getting the 6000N and 10392N I found vertical and horizontal components of lift... After that Im clueless =/
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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:51 AM

    Ok, here's how I see the airplane:



    The force is perpendicular to the wings, not along them. If the plane was horizontal, the lift should be vertical to allow it to rise.

    Can you try it again?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 08:59 AM
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    Aha, mas mixing up two separate images I made, and good catch =]This would mean that my earlier note of vertic. And horiz. Components of lift are backwards, right?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:07 AM

    Backwards? What do you mean by that? :confused:

    Anyway, here's the vertical component:





    Can now find the mass of the airplane, and get the acceleration? :)

    And last thing, could you use the answer box instead of the comment button please? Thanks :)
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:15 AM
    The mass would be1224.5. But I just found mass by W=MG. I don't see how that fits in.
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:26 AM

    Yes, that's it :)

    It's weight is 12000 N, so, it's mass is 12000/9.8 = 1224.5 kg

    Now, use F = ma to get the acceleration in the direction of the resultant vectors.

    You have one horizontal acceleration, and one vertical acceleration. Use the resultant force you got in (a).
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:29 AM
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    Would the mass be opposite to the 12000N of lift?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:30 AM
    Would the mass be opposite to the 12000N of lift?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:34 AM
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    And what does that have to do with the net force along the vertical and horizontal axis?
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:34 AM

    The mass is a scalar quantity and is not 'opposite' of anything (or I'm not understanding what you are saying here... )

    The force on the horizontal is 6000 N, the mass of the plane is 1224.5 kg.

    So,

    6000 N = (1224.5 kg)(a)

    Find the value of a, the horizontal acceleration of the plane.

    Then, use the same formula for the vertical acceleration. :)
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    Sep 20, 2010, 09:43 AM
    Thanks for all your help and patience =].
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    Sep 20, 2010, 10:00 AM

    You're welcome :)

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