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    May 23, 2010, 01:44 PM
    How will the Arizona immigration law be enforced
    In Arizona will American citizens be required to carry proof of citizenship to prove to law enforcement officials they are citizens in case they are detained and questioned?
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    May 23, 2010, 03:49 PM

    In the US, legal immigrants are required by law now ( in all states) to carry certain papers to prove their status.

    If driving a car anyone driving is required to have proper ID.

    And if stopped for a criminal offense ( and yes that is all the AZ law does, allow questioning about citizenship if stopped on other crime)
    So if stopped in all 50 states now, a person stopped are questioned and are required in most states to provide name, bithdate and normally social secuirty number for them to do a proper ID.

    So really the AZ law does not require any more questioning that is already really being done in most states for everyone.
    So since the only people that are being stopped and questioned are those that are a suspect in another crime, asking for their ID would be done anyway.

    The law does make being in the US illegally a state crime since the state can then act on the state crime, and the laws of the state merely enforces the federal laws already in effect ( merlely often ignored.
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    May 23, 2010, 04:22 PM

    Hello m:

    If a cop sees some brown people he wants to hassle, all he has to do is notice that a tail light is out, or pretend that one is. If he suspects they're illegal, he can ask them for their papers...

    So, I ask you... What, other than their ethnicity, could possibly cause a cop to suspect that some random brown people are illegal?? I don't know, and you don't either.

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    May 23, 2010, 07:17 PM

    The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement issues a Notice to Appear (NTA) stating the reason why the alien should be deported or removed. The NTA is served to the alien and is filed with the immigration court. A hearing is scheduled, at which an immigration judge will determine if the information in the NTA is correct. If it is, removal of the alien will be ordered.

    The alien has 30 days to appeal the decision to the Board of Immigration (BIA). If the BIA decides against the alien, the matter can be appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals. Finally, if the Court of Appeals also finds against the alien, the matter can be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Currently Arizona doesn't have the capacity to hold all the alleged aliens, and the courts are backed up for a few years, so many are released with temporary Id's until they get a court date. That's been the law in America since 1952, so writing another law in Arizona was pretty much redundant! But its an election year so what do you expect?

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