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    Dec 1, 2009, 04:40 PM
    Is there bootcamp for troubled 7 year old girls in edminton alberta
    I am having problems with my 7 year old mis behaving and getting in trouble at school and getting suspened. She talks back and is very disrescepect towards me her mom now today her dad came and got her from a field trip because she through a temper I need a bootcamp is there one in edmonton ab?
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    Dec 1, 2009, 04:46 PM

    I know what you are thinking of. They used to show them on TV a few years ago where you enrol your out of control teen in a boot camp that teaches them the facts of life in regard to controlling their tempers, etc. but you won't find any like that.

    I googled 'boot camps in Edmonton, Alta.' and found a lot of websites that will take your kid on, but at a price and not to knock that beligerance out of them but to train them in a skill. Is that what you want ?

    You have to start at home, mom, initiate tough love and get down to basics with her. She has to know that she can't have what she wants, when she wants it. Take away all benefits and get some tough love into the picture, no matter what it takes out of you.

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    Dec 1, 2009, 04:59 PM

    Hello t:

    Send her to counseling, NOT to a boot camp.

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    Dec 1, 2009, 05:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello t:

    Send her to counseling, NOT to a boot camp.

    excon
    I know the type of teen she is dealing with. Counselling would be a joke. She won't find the kind of boot camp she wants. They don't exist any longer.

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    Dec 1, 2009, 05:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    I know the type of teen she is dealing with.
    This is NOT a teen. She's a 7 year old CHILD for crying out loud. The discipline begins at home!
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    Dec 1, 2009, 05:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    I know the type of teen she is dealing with.
    Hello tick:

    She's 7.

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    Dec 1, 2009, 06:37 PM

    Children have temper tantrums. It is how you deal with them and the children learn from the way you handle them that matters.

    May I suggest boot camp or parental training classes for you and your husband?
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    Dec 1, 2009, 06:59 PM

    I have a seven year old. Over my dead body would my son go to boot camp at that age. My wife and I are raising our sons, and do not intend on having someone who is being paid, doing God knows what to them.

    I will give you the name of a book that will help you if you haven't given up altogether. It's "Have A New Kid By Friday" by Dr. Kevin Leman. It will take care of your problems if you follow the process.

    You should give it a try before you send her off.

    She is YOUR child after all.
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    Dec 2, 2009, 02:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tick:

    She's 7.

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    thanks, ex, for pointing that out. I guess it will be a mini boot camp then.

    Or on second thought, A lot of young kids benefit from joining Girl Guides. They teach values, also help with troubled kids showing the right way. The "Y" has a day camp, activities, counsellors, etc. who can suggest some alternatives. This may be another way to get around the rebellious attitude. It is unusual though, having a seven year old girl with this attitude problem. Maybe a school change would be in order... private school... all girls school. Maybe mom should take a good look at the kids she is hanging out with; does she stay at school for lunch or com home; does she have too much time on her hands ?

    What can we say here. It is up to the parent to find a way to deal with this after they have had suggestions here. So far no input from the OP??

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    Dec 2, 2009, 02:59 PM

    I hope the OP comes back and reads what has been written. I would be personally embarrassed to admit that my parenting skills were so poor, that my 7 year old is totally out of control and I want somebody else to fix it for me.

    It's not an experience that suddenly popped up after morning cherrio's. This is an ongoing, unchecked, uncorrected discipline problem (presuming there is no abuse or other contributing factors), that has reached a boiling point.

    I would hope that the OP would at least consider resources available through her school, and school board, to address her behaviours, find out the cause(s), and guide the entire family in how to not only cope, but how to parent this child.

    The answer is not to put this 'problem' somewhere else, and expect others to do the work to undo the damage done.

    Please get help for this child, take responsibility, do what you have to do to correct this. Boot camp excluded.
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    Dec 2, 2009, 03:42 PM

    There has got to be a better way than sending this little girl off to who knows what.

    They didn't have boot camps for unruly kids a hundred years ago.

    They had chores,school, meals, and sleep.

    And they had woodsheds.

    This child would learn respect in my home because it is my responsibility. I am responsible for my children's behavior. My wife too, of course.

    There are proper ways of disciplining children. My two sons very rarely get spankings anymore. And yes, my father was indeed right about the "me more than you" speech.
    Every time I spank my children( no more than two licks) I feel as though I've swallowed an orange, whole. But I know that sometimes you have to do things that hurts both sides for the greater good.

    There are so many cool things nowadays that can be taken away as a form of punishment, and be devastating to their grounded lives, that they will eventually get the hint. Follow the rules.
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    Dec 2, 2009, 04:31 PM

    Jm, you and I both know that what you say is true; but parents nowadays are in a different world. Our world doesn't work for them. Most of them need: you go to A, then B and then C. That's what they learn from the hireananny on TV. They have someone in to advise them.

    Moms is not home now with kids when they are there after school. They are left too much to their own devices, some of which devices are not always what we want to know about. Computer games are babysitters.
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    Dec 3, 2009, 01:02 AM

    I agree with all of you - no sleep-away program would be appropriate for a 7 year old in my mind, totally the wrong message. This child is even too young to go to camp for fun!

    The parents need parenting classes - the child is lacking something she needs and I wouldn't assume discipline is what's missing.

    Does she have a regular meal, bath and bed schedule? Is her home peaceful? Are people under the influence of drugs or alcohol around her? Is the family stable? Do her parents get her to school on time and with appropriate clothing and supplies every day, and do they support her in a caring manner to do her homework?
    Is she healthy and getting good medical and dental care?

    If the child is in a totally stable and warm and wonderful environment then it's fair to start looking at the child's behaviors for problems. Some kids start showing struggles with learning problems like ADHD in second grade. Many kids are first diagnosed with vision problems at this age, and can't function because they don't realize they should see the board but can't. Some kids are being teased and can't handle it, or lack the maturity of their peers and need some extra support. It can be a lot of things, and a responsible parent looks at the circumstances with a child that age and doesn't immediately resort to stricter discipline.

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