[tomder55]

Much of it is because the Aussies invited and extended a travel visa to Rebiya Kadeer, the exiled leader of China's Uighur population. You see ; the Chinese think that having economic ties with a country means by extension they can exercise sovereignty over that country. This is a similar policy they they have exercised with nations daring to recognize Taiwan.

The recent arrest of an Australian mining executive in Shanghai on allegations of commercial espionage has also leant to the tensions.

Geoff Raby ambassador to China , returned to Canberra this week for an emergency consultation after the Chinese called Aussie pols .sino-phobic.
The Chinese vice-foreign minister suddenly canceled a visit to Australia .

What's going on ? The region sees a day when the US influence wains . The Chinese are going to attempt to fill that vacume . Will the Aussies have the strength to resist ? Who needs who's business more ?

[paraclete]

Much of it is due to the fact that the Aussies invited and extended a travel visa to Rebiya Kadeer, the exiled leader of China's Uighur population. You see ; the Chinese think that having economic ties with a country means by extention they can exercise sovereignty over that country. This is a simular policy they they have exercised with nations daring to recognize Taiwan.

The recent arrest of an Australian mining executive in Shanghai on allegations of commercial espionage has also leant to the tensions.

Geoff Raby ambassador to China , returned to Canberra this week for an emergency consultation after the Chinese called Aussie pols .sino-phobic.
The Chinese vice-foreign minister suddenly canceled a visit to Australia .

What's going on ? The region sees a day when the US influence wains . The Chinese are going to attempt to fill that vacuum . Will the Aussies have the strength to resist ? Who needs who's business more ?

You know Tom, it doesn't really worry me because they need us more than we need them. Australia has indicated that they won't be bullied, in fact Krudd was courageous enough to say, we will decide who comes here. Without Australian iron ore, Gas and coal, China is history, it is our minerals that fuel their boom.

As far as I am concerned we don't need Chinese students, we don't need to speak mandarin, ne how ma, by the way and if they don't want to buy our minerals we will find a market else where, it is not business at any price.

The Chinese think they can bully the world because they hold economic strength but Australia has weathered the storm of losing vital trading partners before, and you know what, we are better off without them.

You see we don't need British exports, we don't need American exports and the reality is we don't need chinese imports

[Skell]

Interesting take on it here Tom. Paraclete is on the same track!

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/no-nee...0824-ewg6.html

[paraclete]

Interesting take on it here Tom. Paraclete is on the same track!!

Gerard Henderson | China

Yes we have a difficult relationship at times, this is because we are a free country and it is resented by those who are not free. The oriental mind cannot contemplate criticism however oblique and so they will seek to find a way to get even. Hu's activities were fine while ever China thought it could take control of one of the largest miners in the world, but as soon as that turned sour and spectacularly so, China sought revenge. This is all about China not being as attractive a suitor as it thought it was for Rio Tinto, being suckers.

Let's face it, Australia doesn't care about the Uighers, they are China's problem, but we are not above listening politely. We have a long history of listening not doing, East Timor being a case in point

[tomder55]

There's nothing like a $41 Billion natural gas deal to ease diplomatic tensions.
The Associated Press: Australia gives final approval to Chinese gas sale

Let's face it, Australia doesn't care about the Uighers, they are China's problem,

I applaud the action your govt took . It beats the hell out of how we handled the Uighers we got our hands on. But to make amends ,they were relocated to prime beach front property in Bermuda .

[paraclete]

There's nothing like a $41 Billion natural gas deal to ease diplomatic tensions.
The Associated Press: Australia gives final approval to Chinese gas sale



I applaud the action your govt took . It beats the hell out of how we handled the Uighers we got our hands on. But to make amends ,they were relocated to prime beach front property in Bermuda .

A little yankee sour grapes there, one trade deal you couldn't get your hands on

So who has more interest in the uygher cause, the country who kept them locked up in Git'mo or the country who talked to a uygher leader. I think our attitude is kinder, after all we didn't do an extraordinary rendition for the Chinese. YOU RELEASED THE TERRORISTS BACK INTO THE POOL

[tomder55]

A little yankee sour grapes there, one trade deal you couldn't get your hands on

Not at all... isn't Chevron a 50% partner in the venture ?

[paraclete]

not at all ....isn't Chevron a 50% partner in the venture ?

Yes there are always multinationals with a finger in the pie, but a yankee is preferable to a Chinese government enterprise. We unfortunately need multinationals to provide the expertise