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    rodolfo Posts: 1, Reputation: 0
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    Aug 26, 2008, 12:15 PM
    98 gmc sonoma
    Can't start my sonoma would start by putting starter fluid in the intake now it not starting at all
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    Aug 27, 2008, 02:34 PM
    Sounds like your fuel pump went out. Check for pressure.
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    Aug 27, 2008, 02:56 PM
    If it won't start with starting fluid, focus on the ignition system:

    . Check all under-dash and under-hood fuses with a test light or multimeter:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/cars-t...tml#post252145

    . Check for codes.
    . Check for spark. If the spark is weak, or nonexistent, check coil and Ignition Control Module (ICM). I recommend replacing coils and ICMs every 120,000 miles or 10 years, whichever comes first.

    90%+ of "crank but won't start situations" are electrical-related, not fuel. Over the past 27 months, I can't think of a single instance where replacing the fuel pump solved the problem. Many mechanics and individuals replace fuel pumps, when, almost invariably, it doesn't solve the problem. Normally, it's a fuse, relay, poor ECM ground, or a failing ECM (that controls the relay) that prevents the fuel pump from working. Modern-day fuel pumps are very reliable.
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    Aug 28, 2008, 05:44 AM
    Make sure that the battery is fully charged, also. You may have drained it down after multiple starting attempts, which could be why the starting fluid isn't working now.
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    Aug 28, 2008, 07:20 AM
    this8384, now you are getting obnoxious and spiteful. Your spiteful comment says it's obviously not electrical related and then your very next posting says to make sure that the battery is fully charged. You can't have it both ways.
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    Aug 28, 2008, 10:29 AM
    I'm not having it both ways. If he had a weak fuel pump and continually tried to start the truck, he may have drained the battery which means the theoretical electrical issue was not present prior to his trying to start the vehicle. If the initial starting problem was electrical, then starting fluid would not have caused the vehicle to start, would it have?

    I'm not being spiteful, I'm being honest. I have agreed with you before on other issues but this one, I cannot. You gave me a negative rating just because you haven't witnessed something which quite frankly, I found obnoxious(not to mention improper use of the rating system). I don't appreciate you calling me spiteful and obnoxious just because you were wrong.
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    Aug 28, 2008, 01:13 PM
    As to who is wrong, rodolfo and MrsMorrison will decide. Your spiteful behavior, however, is very clear.
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    Aug 28, 2008, 01:34 PM
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    Quite possible indeed!
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    Aug 29, 2008, 05:39 AM
    I'd appreciate it if you'd quit pouting. If I was being spiteful, I would have found a reason to give Rich a red box for the one I received prior to yours. However, I was wrong on that question and deserved it. The one I received over the Intrepid was unwarranted. You deserved this one but rather than taking it in stride, you start hurling accusations and trying to pick apart everything I say. Grow up.
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    Aug 29, 2008, 07:36 AM
    this8384, your advise on the Intrepid, like most of your responses, shows limited knowledge, insight, and experience. The 2.7L Intrepid is a sludge-prone engine, as many class-action suits attest. MrsMorrison's best hope is using a full-synthetic engine oil and changing the filter regularly. My advise was standard advise for Chrysler, Mercedes, and Toyota engines that are prone to sludging. The sludging problem, poor press, and law suits has become so acute, more and more manufacturers are using full-synthetic engine oil as factory fill. You deserved the red box for possibly introducing doubt, based on heresay and not good science, in her mind at the wrong time.

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