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    Sep 16, 2007, 06:55 PM
    Thanks for shutting down my post about Mary
    AS I WAS SAYING

    Why was she chosen out of all the women?
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    Sep 16, 2007, 06:58 PM
    Your post was shut down because it was becoming flippant and disrespectful. Please use your manners.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 06:58 PM
    I read your last post, and it was not closed, it was deleted. Not by me but another moderator.

    You obviously don't really want to know but wish to attack the teachings of both christianity and Islam.

    The bible in the NT gives you a complete reason and answer to how, I am sure you already know but read it and you will know.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:01 PM
    Okay I woudlnt attack my own religion. (Christianity) It was simple a joke. (I gooof around A lot, okay, not to offend but because I have a sarcastic sense of humor)

    Uhm, no I don't why she was chosen? If I did I wouldn't be asking.

    I don't even have a bible, I do but its not in english so that isn't much of help to me.

    ^^^ Anyway ignoring all that

    Can anyone tell me why Mary was chosen to give birth to baby Jesus out of all the other women?
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:27 PM
    Simply put, in a way that a youngster can understand

    She was chosen because she was pure at heart.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:35 PM
    She was in the right place at the right time and had the right attitude
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:36 PM
    Thanks, still puzzled at why her but thanks.

    Wha tsection of the bible is this in ?
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:47 PM
    There were many factors with Mary, first she was a virgin, she was in the correct family line, Jesus had to be of the right lineage.
    Next it was arranged for her to already marry Joseph, who also needed to be of certain lineage ( he as step father would provide certain lineage to Jesus also) and have to fulfill certain old testement prophecy.

    So in general terms, she was basically borned to be this person.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 07:50 PM
    Okay thank you but which confuses me because lets say your not a religious person at all.

    Can it be proven that was was magically pregnant?

    I hate the battle of religion and science

    Eh I know it's a matter of opinion so itts not the best question
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    Sep 16, 2007, 08:04 PM
    One can not really prove Mary was even alive, beyond some early writings.
    So no, but the fact that two very different religions both base the same claims is one of the most unusual factors of it.

    Next if one is not a Christian, this is the least of the things you have to accept on faith, The entire concept of Christianity is that Jesus died, and was raised from the dead for our salvation, that trumps a virgin birth any day. And the other various miricles of both old and new testement all take faith, from talking donkeys to super strengh to fire from heaven,
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    Sep 16, 2007, 08:14 PM
    True.
    Thank you guys.

    Only thing I can't believe is talking donkeys haha.

    So then do oyu believe someone else can be born from the dead like Jesus?
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:05 PM
    I am not sure, I think we get a few on here from time to time that have learned to type, ( joking of course)

    But yes, the talking donkey was always a bit much for me also, but it is in the old testement.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:19 PM
    HAha speaking of a joke.
    A man went to the holy lands with his wife as a second honey moon. Sadly his wife died and the man at the cemetery said "We can have your wife buried in the holy lands for 500$ or cremate her and ship her back to your home town for free."
    The man replied "Have her cremated and shiped back please."
    The man who worked in the cemetery said in shock"But why?! This is a wonderful place to be burried."
    The man said "Listen, Jesus died and was buried here, then rose from the dead to come back, im not taking that kind of risk"
    XD
    Haha okay sorry but you have to admit that is kind of funny :p

    But on a more serious note, I never heard of the talking donkey, Was he supposed to represent human life form?
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    #14

    Sep 16, 2007, 09:21 PM
    No, he was allowed to talk to warn his owner of a danger.

    I am sorry it is late and I am too tired to hunt it down,
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    #15

    Sep 16, 2007, 09:25 PM
    Oh its okay, I think I'm going to actually buy a bible in english.. and maybe to to read up on that cause no I'm intrested
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:33 PM
    It sounds like you know bits and pieces of Bible stories but have never put it all together.

    Is there a church in your area that you could join for a while (or longer) and attend a basic Bible study course or a Bible overview course? Or maybe the minister/priest might let you take the basic Bible class and not have to become a member. Be sure you start with Genesis. A Bible overview course I took lasted for two years and didn't get into the nitty-gritty of every story, was more about general Bible themes.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:38 PM
    Yea there actually a church down the street but I went there for Confirmation clases, but they bored me to death with videos, and no explanation so I just gave up.
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:44 PM
    Is there another church besides that one?
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    Sep 16, 2007, 09:56 PM
    Yea... but I have problems going to new churches.. I never feel welcomed.lol.
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    #20

    Sep 16, 2007, 10:04 PM
    Well, if you read the Bible, you will need someone around to ask questions of.

    How about we do this. Read Genesis 1-3 and stop. Then post here if you have questions.

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