[classyT]

The most hated woman in America isn't going to be waltzing around at some mall shopping and looking like herself.

She has to waltz somewhere. The photo's look like her.

It doesn't matter and I don't care. But just for grins, what would you do if she showed up in your church? Would you approach her?

[Wondergirl]

She has to waltz somewhere. The photo's look like her.

One woman almost got killed because she looks like Casey. I'm told I have doubles walking around, and you do too probably.

But just for grins, what would you do if she showed up in your church? Would you approach her?

Of course I would. "Approach" is the wrong word; that sounds sneaky. I would welcome her and bring her a cup of coffee and invite her to stay for Bible class.

[Alty]

She could probably have probation transferred to where she is now.

No. The judge is adamant that probation is to happen where the crime took place. She could be forced to go back to Florida and stay for the entire year of her probation.

Her dream team is fighting in court right now, but the judges orders were very clear at her hearing. Probation was not to start until after she got out of jail.

Looks like she'll be forced to go home one way or another.

[Alty]

She has to waltz somewhere. The photo's look like her.

it doesn't matter and I don't care. But just for grins, what would you do if she showed up in your church? Would you approach her?

I know your question isn't directed at me, but I'd like to answer anyway.

First, I don't go to church, so I wouldn't run into her there. I also don't think she's the type of person that would go to church. If I were her I'd be afraid to cross the threshold in fear of being struck by lightening from heaven. ;)

But, if I did run into her, I wouldn't physically assault her. It's not my style. I would however tell her exactly what I think of her, and that I think she got away with murder, and that I hope that whatever tiny bit of conscience she has, haunts her for the rest of her life.

I can honestly say that I hope that her remaining days on this earth are filled with the same hell she put her poor child through. I do not wish her the best, I do not forgive her, and I never will. She should be rotting in jail. I'll never feel differently.

R.I.P Caylee.

[Aurora_Bell]

I don't think I could talk to her. WG you sound so forgiving, but are you really? Would you really be open to her? I doubt it.

I would burst into tears at the mere sight of her. I wouldn't talk to her or physically assault her, also not my style. I am sure she will get her punishment, but I am not the one to dole it out. I am not so quick to forgive. Especially the murder of a baby.

[smoothy]

I don't think I could talk to her. WG you sound so forgiving, but are you really? Would you really be open to her? I doubt it.

I would burst into tears at the mere sight of her. I wouldn't talk to her or physically assault here, also not my style. I am sure she will get her punishment, but I am not the one to dole it out. I am not so quick to forgive. Especially the murder of a baby.

I couldn't bring myself to talk to her... but remember like OJ... this is not over yet. The Civil cases haven't even started yet.

[Wondergirl]

I don't think I could talk to her. WG you sound so forgiving, but are you really? Would you really be open to her? I doubt it.

If you knew me in real life, you wouldn't say that. I talk to ANYone -- rich, poor, guilty, not guilty, homeless, corporate head. That's what I did in Libraryland for 30 years in order to get answers for patrons. We librarians don't just look up stuff, we call whomever we need to in order to get the right answers for our patrons.

I've initiated phone contact with a bunch of people on this site and on others, mostly to hear their voice and get to know them beyond the monitor screen. Hearing a voice, and, in Casey's case if she came to my church, seeing her facial expressions and body language would tell me an awful lot about her. (And I went to psych grad school to enable me to do that well.)

Talking to Casey and being civil to her has nothing to do with forgiveness.

[J_9]

I have such a problem with hypocrites! That's partly why I don't go to church.

Sorry, that was just an aside and I don't mean to hijack... now back to the thread.

[Wondergirl]

I have such a problem with hypocrites! That's partly why I don't go to church.

I'll further hijack. You're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. "Church,"Dear Abby said, "is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints."

[Aurora_Bell]

I see what you mean WG. I guess to be nice or hospitable to someone I hated seems two faced to me. Not saying you are at all, just how I interpreted the question.

I have and do talk to just about anyone, as far as rich or poor goes, that means nothing to me. I don't care how much or how little someone has.

I don't know if you read the link I attached previously, but my uncle (by marriage) was accused of murder and found guilty, spent 10 years in jail before the RCMP reviewed his case again and found him not guilty. He was put in jail because of a racist bigoted RCMP officer who stated "Let an Indian burn for it". In 1971, he was wrongfully convicted of murdering his friend, in a Sydney, N.S. park. He was just 17 years old when he received a life sentence.

He was released in 1982 after RCMP reviewed his case. He was cleared by the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal the following year. Though the Appeal Court declared him not guilty, he was told he had contributed to his own conviction and that any miscarriage of justice was more apparent than real.

I am not one to jump at conclusions or believe everything I hear. But this case, screams guilt to me. And to be hospitable to her would make me feel that she deserves better.

[Wondergirl]

I see what you mean WG. I guess to be nice or hospitable to someone I hated seems two faced to me. Not saying you are at all, just how I interpreted the question.

But isn't that the whole point of Christianity -- to be nice to someone who is hated? Jesus did it.

[Aurora_Bell]

It's not that I can't be nice to someone who is hated, I am mean (hypothetically) to a woman who killed her child.

[Wondergirl]

It's not that I can't be nice to someone who is hated, I am mean (hypothetically) to a woman who killed her child.

At the risk of getting more rocks thrown at me, I will remind you she was declared "not guilty" in a U.S. court of law. You and I don't KNOW if she killed her child or not. (And no, I don't need to see a list of the circumstantial evidence again.)

Would you visit her in prison if she were serving a life sentence?

[Aurora_Bell]

NO! I would never visit her. I don't need a court to tell me she is guilty. I know she is. I don't believe everything I hear, I have made my own judgment on this woman. Now, if say she were spending a life in jail, and then it came to light she was not the murderer, and I mean there would have to be more than just circumstantial evidence, like the real murderer came forward, I would love to talk to her in church.

Would you visit her? And let’s say she was found guilty, and for some reason was not serving a life sentence. Would you still treat her the same way? And would you be able to forgive her if she has done what the courts feel is her "time and punishment"?

[Wondergirl]

Would you visit her? And let's say she was found guilty, and for some reason was not serving a life sentence. Would you still treat her the same way? And would you be able to forgive her if she has done what the courts feel is her "time and punishment"?

Of course I would visit her!

If she had been found guilty in the first degree, which is what the prosecution was going for, she would be serving a life sentence. And yes, I would treat her the same way and forgive her even now. Forgiving her does NOT mean "Oh, it's okay now. What you did just fine."

It is not for me to judge her; that's in God hands.

[Aurora_Bell]

Why would you want to visit her? What would you want to talk about with her? Forgiving her means accepting what she has done. I'm talking hypothetical here, all of this is just hypothetical if we encountered her scenarios.

I feel like I am a bad Christian because I can't or won't forgive her. I could never accept what she has done. Would you forgive the devil too? (not meaning that to sound as snarky as it appears). Would you forgive anyone who asked? Is there a cut off to how much evil a person can do before they don't get the forgivness anymore?

[Wondergirl]

Forgiving her means accepting what she has done.

That is absolutely not true.

[Aurora_Bell]

Really?

. Forgiveness - compassionate feelings that support a willingness to forgive
Mercifulness, mercy - the feeling that motivates compassion
2. forgiveness - the act of excusing a mistake or offense
Pardon
Benignity, kindness - a kind act
Condonation - a pardon by treating the offender as if the offense had not occurred
Exculpation - the act of freeing from guilt or blame

[Wondergirl]

Yes, really.

Forgiveness is for YOU, not for the offender.

Forgiveness is letting go of the need for revenge and releasing negative thoughts of bitterness and resentment. -psychcentral.com

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Forgiveness is a decision to let go of resentment and thoughts of revenge. The act that hurt or offended you may always remain a part of your life, but forgiveness can lessen its grip on you and help you focus on other, positive parts of your life. Forgiveness can even lead to feelings of understanding, empathy and compassion for the one who hurt you.

Forgiveness doesn't mean that you deny the other person's responsibility for hurting you, and it doesn't minimize or justify the wrong. You can forgive the person without excusing the act. Forgiveness brings a kind of peace that helps you go on with life. -mayoclinic.com

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Forgiveness is typically defined as the process of concluding resentment, indignation or anger. -Wikipedia.com

[tickle]

That is absolutely not true.

Forgiving her, in my opinion, is sanctioning what she has done. I haven't said much here about this issue, I guess I don't feel as strongly about it as some others, more or less because I didn't follow the court proceedings as religiously, but I don't think I would ever want to face her without seeing 'blood on her hands' so to speak.

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