[tomder55]

To suggest that men should be free to expose themselves to any woman they choose is outrageous.

He is right . Do the women athletes have a choice besides refusing to partake in the sick charade the woke lunatics have forces on them ? Let this fraud who has not been subjected to chemical and surgical castration swim with the men and see how many 1st place trophies he receives .

[jlisenbe]

This is the lunacy that WG is defending. "Several current and former members of the University of Wyoming’s Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority are suing it for allowing a "peeping" biological male identifying as a woman to join."

So the feminist movement has come full circle, it would appear. There used to be a concern for the rights of women. Now she is arguing that the rights of women should be trampled in favor of the supposed rights of the trans folks. Incredible.

Do the women athletes have a choice besides refusing to partake in the sick charade the woke lunatics have forces on them ?

I thought all of these people were "pro-choice". I guess that only applies when it concerns the right to kill unborn children.

[Wondergirl]

Was this trans woman medically approved and accepted as truly trans, or was it on her word only that she's trans?

Sounds like that sorority needs a brain.

[jlisenbe]

was it on her word only that she's trans?

Please explain that. Do you mean that a person must PROVE he/she is trans, and we don't simply take their word for it? What proof would you require?

[Wondergirl]

Please explain that. Do you mean that a person must PROVE he/she is trans, and we don't simply take their word for it? What proof would you require?

If I (in this case, a university, a sorority) am asked to extend privileges of some sort to this person, I would request medical documentation.

I know a guy who says he is really a female but doesn't have the money or even the courage to go through with all the gender therapy sessions, the counseling sessions, the medical exams and assessments, treating gender dysphoria, the HRT and other hormonal therapy, the voice coaching, electrolysis, the top surgery and bottom surgery, name change on legal documents and state ID, laryngoplasty, and more.

[jlisenbe]

I know a guy who says he is really a female but doesn't have the money or even the courage to go through with all the gender therapy sessions, the counseling sessions, the medical exams and assessments, treating gender dysphoria, the HRT and other hormonal therapy, the voice coaching, electrolysis, the top surgery and bottom surgery, name change on legal documents and state ID, laryngoplasty, and more.

So you would require all of this for a person to be allowed into a sorority?

[Wondergirl]

So you would require all of this for a person to be allowed into a sorority?

He'd certainly have to prove he's making progress.

[jlisenbe]

How would he do that?

[Wondergirl]

How would he do that?

By showing paperwork from his doctor(s) as to what's been done and what's left to do.

I wouldn't let him join a sorority unless he had fully transitioned to female.

[jlisenbe]

So it sounds like you would support the lawsuit filed by the members of the sorority. Correct? After all, he was still fully plumbed as a male and was clearly still attracted to females. Or at the very least, you would not have allowed him to join the sorority.

[Wondergirl]

Correct.

Doesn't sound like he's very far along in the process of transitioning.

[tomder55]

Add Budweiser to the list of woke companies . Bud Lite brand has a new spokes-"person" . The person is a TikTok star .....strike one ; and transformer ....strike two and a fraud ...strike three.
Dylan Mulvaney is a biological male who thinks he is a woman . His so called transition into "girlhood" began last year . He/she/it became a TikTok star by documented his so called transition .Mostly he wears dresses ;puts on makeup; prances around on camera and makes fun of women. His act is a misogynistic parody that the woke crowd can't get enough of .

This has been a cash cow for him. He has parleyed his fraud into deals with Ulta Beauty, Haus Labs, Crest, Instacart, EOS, CeraVe, Native, Kate Spade, Ole Henriksen and KitchenAid and others including now with Budweiser .

And the kicker is that Bud's target demographic is young adult males who see right through this demeaning parody of women for what it really is .
It is a perfect match .....a man who pretends to be a woman teamed up with urine that pretends to be beer .

[jlisenbe]

Our slide into decadence continues on. The effect on the military is alarming.

Last year, the Army missed its recruiting goal by 25 percent. They expect this year to be even worse. The Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps began the new fiscal year in October 50 percent below their normal recruiting numbers. Public confidence in the military is falling precipitously, and even military families – from which most recruits come – are less likely to recommend military life.

What explains the decline? According to a November poll, the most common explanations included "military leadership becoming overly politicized" and "so-called ‘woke’ practices undermining military effectiveness." Another survey found that 65 percent of active-duty servicemen and women are concerned about politicization, including the woke training programs and equity-minded reduced physical fitness standards.

Troop retention rates are falling, too, and for the same reasons. As the report notes, "the perception that non-warfighting missions are distracting senior military leadership may alienate experienced, skilled and knowledgeable warfighters, incentivizing their early departure[.]"

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mili...ine-reason-why

Only a genuine move of God will save us.

[tomder55]

March 27 a transformer guns down 6 at a Christian school . March 31 Clueless Joe honors 'Transgender day of visibility 'a with a 3,464-word “fact sheet” suggesting “conservative politicians” were driving “transgender youth” to consider suicide.
FACT SHEET: White House Honors Transgender Day of Visibility | The White House

3 days after the killings KJP said it was the transformers who were under attack.

The day after the murders NBC's headline was not about the victims . It was about how transformers fear the backlash.
Fear pervades trans community amid focus on Nashville shooter's gender identity (nbcnews.com)

Amazon's Candi Castleberry, sent a message to “LGBTQIA++XYZ employees and allies expressing “support and solidarity during this period of apprehension and uncertainty.”

No expression of sympathy for the victims .

[Wondergirl]

Add Budweiser to the list of woke companies . Bud Lite brand has a new spokes-"person" . The person is a TikTok star .....strike one ; and transformer ....strike two and a fraud ...strike three.
Dylan Mulvaney is a biological male who thinks he is a woman . His so called transition into "girlhood" began last year . He/she/it became a TikTok star by documented his so called transition .

I can't find any information that Dylan has done any more than having facial surgery. There's no mention of any other transgender work that usually takes at least three years, often longer. Dylan claims he/she told his/her very conservative parents he/she is a girl, not a boy, when he/she was 4. That may be true, but Dylan needs to get rear in gear and do ALL the work of transitioning.

[jlisenbe]

but Dylan needs to get rear in gear and do ALL the work of transitioning.

Why is that?

[Wondergirl]

Why is that?

If he/she is truly trans, then follow through with all that I posted in #145. Otherwise, Dylan is mocking all the true transgenders who have done or are doing the long, hard, expensive work of transitioning.

[tomder55]

I think his is a la cage aux folles act that works because he has his brain dead TikTok audience believing his cr@p .He gets hits and that means the corporate idiots at Bud see $$$$

[Wondergirl]

And, tomder, that's why the facial surgery, maybe a bit of electrolysis too, and wow! now I'm female! -- and have a fan club on top of it!

[jlisenbe]

If he/she is truly trans, then follow through with all that I posted in #145. Otherwise, Dylan is mocking all the true transgenders who have done or are doing the long, hard, expensive work of transitioning.

It would be OK if this was just your personal opinion, but you seem to be suggesting that it should become a sort of widespread standard. I'm not sure what gives you that authority.

Sure seems you are being awfully judgmental.