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jlisenbe · May 21, 2021, 04:25 AM

And that's NOT two FT jobs!!!.

First you say it is ("37.5 + 37.5 = two full time jobs = 75.0 hrs." "I went a step further than your 60 hrs. a week and explained that 70 hours a week is two FT jobs"), and now you say it's not with three exclamation marks!!!

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you somewhere in this?

And 60 hrs. a week will NOT get him out of poverty.

Have already shown that it will. Keep up. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...29#post3869129

You do realize that simply putting the word "not" in all caps does NOT make your point correct?

talaniman · May 21, 2021, 08:21 AM

IF two people work that sixty hours a week then who takes care of the kids or gets the one family car for work? All that depends on being able to get those 60 hours a week and in some places it's not available or logistically possible. Not everyone can even work 60 hours a week for long periods of time let alone a mom and dad, and especially not a single parent. Burnout is no joke.

Sounds good on paper though, and in conversation, but reality is a bit trickier.

Wondergirl · May 21, 2021, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you somewhere in this?

My fault. I'm sorry. Have been very stressed because my hemaglobin number has been dropping. I misunderstood what you wrote. Tal gave an excellent response just above this one.

jlisenbe · May 21, 2021, 10:01 AM

My fault. I'm sorry. Have been very stressed because my hemaglobin number has been dropping. I misunderstood what you wrote. Tal gave an excellent response just above this one.

Take care of yourself, WG. I'll be praying for you. BTW, hope your husband is doing better.

I have to tell you a story. You have complained REPEATEDLY in the past that I am too literal. Never really thought about it before, but I think you have a point there. I do tend to be very literal in reading the words of others. I'm very careful with what I say/write, and I just assume everyone else is as well, but that's really not the case. I still think you take far too many liberties with Scripture. As I told a friend yesterday, you can't get a meaning from reading "between the lines" that does violence to the lines themselves. Still, I thought you would be cheered somewhat to see that yes, I do listen to your observations.

I don't read Tal's posts. His mind is far, far too far into the gutter.

paraclete · May 21, 2021, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

IF two people work that sixty hours a week then who takes care of the kids or gets the one family car for work? All that depends on being able to get those 60 hours a week and in some places it's not available or logistically possible. Not everyone can even work 60 hours a week for long periods of time let alone a mom and dad, and especially not a single parent. Burnout is no joke.

Sounds good on paper though, and in conversation, but reality is a bit trickier.

it is forgotten why the 40 hour week came into being it was so people didn't have to work under the slave labour conditions you propose

tomder55 · May 21, 2021, 03:43 PM

the 40 hr week was a fantasy to me since I was an adult . As a laborer I put in 60 hr weeks routinely . As a manager my hours were even longer especially when you consider that I was on call for both shifts of operation

jlisenbe · May 21, 2021, 06:24 PM

so people didn't have to work under the slave labour conditions you propose

More foolish drama. When I was a school principal I could only dream of a forty hour workweek. An American man does what he needs to do to support his family.

talaniman · May 21, 2021, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

the 40 hr week was a fantasy to me since I was an adult . As a laborer I put in 60 hr weeks routinely . As a manager my hours were even longer especially when you consider that I was on call for both shifts of operation

You like me worked whatever the boss let us work. Worker hours are set by the boss.

paraclete · May 21, 2021, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

the 40 hr week was a fantasy to me since I was an adult . As a laborer I put in 60 hr weeks routinely . As a manager my hours were even longer especially when you consider that I was on call for both shifts of operation

more fool you, why should others have to do the same

jlisenbe · May 22, 2021, 04:33 AM

more fool you, why should others have to do the same

Because that's the real world.

tomder55 · May 22, 2021, 05:05 AM

I did not do it for the love of the work . My responsibility was to take care of my family ;and I took that responsibility seriously

jlisenbe · May 22, 2021, 05:09 AM

It's what people do who do not want to live on the government dole, and who want to have an opportunity for some financial success in life for themselves and their families. Living on welfare is living on the low end.

In my case I did love my work. If I could still do it I'd be back at work in a school.

tomder55 · May 22, 2021, 05:23 AM

Yes I know teachers love their jobs. They do the extra work without pay , and sometimes foot the bill for supplies.

They are underappreciated and are poorly represented by the unions that allegedly represent their interests .

I never complained about the extended hours .
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jlisenbe · May 22, 2021, 05:30 AM

Thankfully, I was never in a union. Was in a professional organization, but not a liberal one.