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Why work when the government will give you freebees for not working ?

"overly generous jobless benefits causing worker shortage" theory now gaining momentum.

Jobs report April 2021: Hiring boom goes bust (cnbc.com)
Many people choosing to stay on unemployment rather than work, business owners and analysts say | KOB 4

This continues a trend I noticed when I was doing the hiring at the end of last year . There are plenty of jobs . Yet it was very difficult to hire new employees and to retain them
Quid did a Snoopy dance because he believes this news validates his push for more socialistic interventions .

Tom you know that the long term jobless are not fit for work, so why not help them out, it is good for the economy, they spend every penny they get. You are looking for new employees, try looking for old ones, people with a little life history and a little big of nouce, not these damn millennials who know nothing

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Originally Posted by tomder55

he believes this news validates his push for more socialistic interventions .

What are the "socialistic" interventions?

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the long term jobless are not fit for work, so why not help them out,

Why not take money from working Americans and give it to the lazy? You're really asking that? When the pantry becomes empty, it's amazing how quickly those "not fit for work" can get themselves ready. Anyone who is mentally/physically equipped to work should be expected to get off his/her rear end and get after it. But if they don't want to, they won't get a penny from other Americans who work hard and pay the bills.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

other Americans who work hard and pay the bills.

Those "lazy" people are using that money to pay their bills and buy necessities.

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Those "lazy" people are using that money to pay their bills and buy necessities.

And go to the Casinos and make a down payment on a car and any other number of things people do with money they don't really need. Most of the stim money checks went to people like the two of us who did not at all need it. Vote buying.

But even at that, if you want to pay your bills and buy necessities, GET A JOB.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Most of the stim money checks went to people like the two of us who did not at all need it. Vote buying.

I gave mine to people who needed it for home and car repairs. What did you spend yours on?

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I gave mine to people who needed it for home and car repairs.

Why do you feel so compelled to publicly pat yourself on the back?

We put it in the bank. It is completely stupid idea to send out money the government does not have to people who, in most cases, do not need it.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Why do you feel so compelled to publicly pat yourself on the back?

All that money I have, ya know, all that wealth -- gotta earn my way into heaven, ya know. And I'm daring you to do the same, to help others who desperately need the help.

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send out money the government does not have to people who, in most cases, do not need it.

You're full of it. The ones I know definitely do. Around here, retail stores have closed permanently, as have restaurants, motels, small businesses of various kinds. Thus, employees have been let go and they don't have the experience/skill set necessary for other jobs that might be available.

If I’m full of anything it’s some knowledge of this topic. You should try it. We had to borrow or print all of this money. If we had sent it to the unemployed then that would be fine. Instead it was primarily sent to people like the two of us who don’t need it.

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If I’m full of anything it’s some knowledge of this topic.

What is your source?

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We had to borrow or print all of this money. If we had sent it to the unemployed then that would be fine. Instead it was primarily sent to people like the two of us who don’t need it.

Sooooo, my unemployed in-law niece in Iowa who has four little kids shouldn't have gotten hefty stimulus checks? Or my unemployed nephew in Colorado shouldn't have gotten any? Or my unemployed in-law nieces in Florida....

My source? How's this for you?

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You are ineligible for stimulus payment if you earn more than the income limit. That applies to anyone whose reported adjusted gross income for tax years 2018 or 2019 was at least:

$99,000 for individuals and married couples filing separately
$136,500 for heads of household
$198,000 for married couples filing jointly

Now I'm going to go WWAAAAYYYYYYY out on a limb here and say that married couples, for instance, making 80 or 100 or 125 thou a year do not NEED a 2400 dollar stim check. Pols, however, need our votes, so they stupidly send the checks out to them, and the non-thinkers cheer them as being full of compassion. Completely stupid.

https://www.thebalance.com/who-is-in...g%20separately

And then there is YOUR source. You mentioned the UNEMPLOYED. Aren't those the very people I said above who SHOULD get stim checks?

But that's OK. You just go right on defending the need for married couples making 150 thou a year to get a stim check from the feds funded completely by borrowed money. I can only guess that makes perfect sense to you.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

But that's OK. You just go right on defending the need for married couples making 150 thou a year to get a stim check from the feds funded completely by borrowed money. I can only guess that makes perfect sense to you.

I don't know any married couples who make that much money. And any that do have mostly likely helped out struggling friends, neighbors, and/or family members. Plus, most of my friends who work have had their hours cut, have been laid off, or the business has folded.

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I don't know any married couples who make that much money.

Do you suppose that it just might be possible that they are out there and you don't know them?

According to you, you made that much last year. Remember saying that when you said you voted to raise taxes on yourself in Illinois? Remember?

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Do you suppose that it just might be possible that they are out there and you don't know them?

They're all in Mississippi.

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According to you, you made that much last year. Remember saying that when you said you voted to raise taxes on yourself in Illinois? Remember?

No, I did NOT make/earn that money. My beloved mother and son died. I was very surprised I had been named a beneficiary in their wills. I'd give it back in a nanosecond if I could have both alive and in my life.

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What are the "socialistic" interventions?

You can deny it is socialism But the reality is that there is no significant difference between progressive "reform " and socialism . The only real difference is that today's socialist want to have capitalist around enough to pay for their agenda. By all appearances private ownership of the means of production is preserved . But through mounting interventions in the economy, the government’s sway over business grows to the point where it is the state that ultimately steers and dictates production, and thus becomes the de facto owner of the means of production.

You know the one thing that is lacking in this post is compassion. Tom, I am surprised at your attitude. Not all unemployed are shiftless layabout dead beats, but this is what your post implies. many lack the skills for todays economy, this is a failure, not of their initiative, but of your Lasse Faire education system. Education for profit, educating those who can afford it

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But through mounting interventions in the economy

My question, still not answered, is what are those interventions?

This is the third time I have asked you about "socialism", and this us the third time you have not answered my question.

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many lack the skills for todays economy, this is a failure, not of their initiative, but of your Lasse Faire education system. Education for profit, educating those who can afford it

That's my beef, too. We should spend a lot more time and energy teaching life skills and give vocational guidance, even to middleschoolers and, of course, to older students. Actually, even younger students can learn what they're good at doing and be taught new skills. College too often is a bunch of useless courses. I know many of MY college courses were useless (teacher training -- but no real training, just the history of this or that, ethics, etc., not much practical ... although some of that knowledge might help me win on "Jeopardy"...).

Rich guys didn't need tax cuts but they got them and why is it that when you help out the poor or main street during a CRISIS it becomes socialism?