[speechlesstx]

The church is just paying their salary, not dictating what they do with it. With that logic, when I pay my Sprint bill someone who works at Sprint gets a paycheck and if they have an abortion I'm paying for it.

I bet that somewhere down the line you bought something at a store, that money helped pay someone's salary who then bought something at a store and helped pay someone else's salary who then bought something to help pay for someone else's salary who spent his money somewhere that helped pay someone's salary at Sentrol which used used to be in Oregon and then I bought something from Sentrol which was then sold to help pay my salary. You just paid for my gas to drive to a Tea Party rally.

[excon]

The church is just paying their salary, not dictating what they do with it.

Hello again, Steve:

Then paying for their insurance, and not dictating what they do with it, would be the SAME... No?

excon

[tomder55]

But, the church HANDS their employees money in the form of their paycheck, and they're going to BUY contraceptives with it... How is THAT not paying for contraceptives??

It's that free will thing. The church can't force people what they spend their wages on. Once the transaction of pay for service is complete ,it is no longer the church's money .

Look ,I get it . We see it as a 1st amendment violation . You see it as not covering "women's health care" as a 14th amendment violation of the equal protection clause. Unless it is overturned in court ;or a new administration and Senate are elected ;then the Obots win.

The church facing that choice will have to provide it through their insurance... or most likely stop offering coverage to all their employees . That suits the Obots well because the whole idea behind Obamacare is the destruction of the private health insurance industry and drive everyone into a European government run single payer system.

[speechlesstx]

OK, if I have to pay for your contraception I want a say in what goes on in your sex life.

“If you don’t want Uncle Sam in your bedroom, don’t ask Uncle Sam to pay for what goes down in your bedroom.” -Tina Korbe

[excon]

OK, if I have to pay for your contraception I want a say in what goes on in your sex life

Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, what the Limpone said... He also said that women who take 'em are whores... I wouldn't be getting NEAR what that guy says.

Viagra is covered... I'll send you a tape.

excon

[Wondergirl]

But if contraceptives are paid for by health insurance, that will cut down on abortions and even on births that produce babies who will demand taxpayer help because of illness/infirmities/handicaps and because they were born to single moms or into poor families. Win-win?

How has Limbaugh avoided having children all these years through four marriages?

[tomder55]

If government can force the church to provide contraception do they also have the power to force you to take it ? Why not ? If they have that right don't they also have the right to deny you services when you get old ?

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, what the Limpone said... He also said that women who take 'em are whores... I wouldn't be getting NEAR what that guy says.

Viagra is covered... I'll send you a tape.

excon

You'll note I quoted Tina Korbe. I'm sure you'd enjoy being near her.

[TUT317]

The Declaration of Independence

James Madison 'Federalist 51 '

Hi Tom,

I'm more than happy with this and I am not disputing its validity.

All I am saying is that natural rights are not a prerequisite for democrarcy.

Tut

[TUT317]

OK, if I have to pay for your contraception I want a say in what goes on in your sex life.

Each to their own I guess.

“If you don’t want Uncle Sam in your bedroom, don’t ask Uncle Sam to pay for what goes down in your bedroom.” -Tina Korbe

[/QUOTE]

That's just more legal fiction. Uncle Sam in the bedroom is just a persona.

Tut

[speechlesstx]

Each to their own I guess.

That's just more legal fiction. Uncle Sam in the bedroom is just a persona.

Tut[/QUOTE]

Tut, it's no more silly than the arguments being made for the mandate.

[TUT317]

Tut, it's no more silly than the arguments being made for the mandate.[/QUOTE]


Hi Steve,

Sorry, my post was a poor attempt at humor.

When it comes to mandates in my country the party in power gives the impression that mandates are the least of their worries. Sounds the same everywhere.

Tut

[paraclete]

Now tut you know every elected government has a mandate it is just we are governed by an unelected government