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Jun 24, 2009, 07:30 AM
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 Originally Posted by hheath541
i know this has nothing to do with the original post, I'm just curious; are you planning on undergoing gender reassignment surgery?
I'm not trying to be offensive. i know several people who are either planning on or in the process of transitioning. i think it takes a level of courage and determination that very few people can understand.
Heyy. No worries. I plan to in the future actually :)
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Jun 24, 2009, 08:55 AM
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jlove09, you said its not genetic, but you were born with it. Genetics ARE what you were born with.
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Jun 24, 2009, 11:31 AM
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 Originally Posted by jlove09
Heyy. No worries. I plan to in the future actually :)
Congratulations in advance and I wish you all the luck in the world so that it will be as stress-free and timely as possible :D
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Jun 24, 2009, 11:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by jenniepepsi
jlove09, you said its not genetic, but you were born with it. genetics ARE what you were born with.
I believe you can be born with traits separate from genetics.
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Jun 24, 2009, 12:13 PM
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We are living in a strange time. Where it is cool to be gay. People that are greedy thinking only of there desires and not of the up coming generation and the coming that it will cause them. Being gay is a new fad. Everyone wants to be on the wagon .
If you were little Timmy playing in the school yard how would you feel being made fun of with Gay parents ? Does anybody think of this ?
We are surrounded by gayism. Radio, through songs , commercials , Government, Videos,TV etc. The temptation to lure you in to the pit falls .
I am not for, nor am I against it. I know good people that are Gay , that will not change the way I feel about them. I say however or what you do should remain in the privacy of your own domain. Not where ever you want to publicly broadcast it. That goes for what ever sexual preference you do prefer. Sex is a private matter . KEEP it that way. Have at least that much respect for yourself , if not for you , your partner .
What ever you are.
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Jun 24, 2009, 12:22 PM
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Being Gay is not a fad and I think that is one of the most uneducated things I have ever heard. Why would anyone want to be gay? To be made fun of, put down, called a ton of different names, so on and so forth? I can't imagine anyone being gay because it is "cool" and I certainly don't think it is encouraged, not in American society at least. Perhaps the tolerance has gone up, but it surely isn't something our society views as normal as apple pie.
A fad are the beenie babies, tickle me elmo, fanny packs... list goes on. A fad isn't a lifestyle choice to do something that makes you happy, no matter what judgement is handed towards you from the public eye. Courage isn't about winning or losing... courage is about standing up for what you believe in, having the morals and judgement to back it up, and being proud to say you are this way and you don't care what other people think. It is living happy, and free, not scared and full of shame. No one should have to be ashamed because of the sexual orientation they choose. That is not humane, period.
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Jun 24, 2009, 01:26 PM
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 Originally Posted by 321543
We are living in a strange time. Where it is cool to be gay. People that are greedy thinking only of there desires and not of the up coming generation and the coming that it will cause them. Being gay is a new fad. Everyone wants to be on the wagon .
If you were little Timmy playing in the school yard how would you feel being made fun of with Gay parents ? Does anybody think of this ?
We are surrounded by gayism. radio, through songs , commercials , Government, Videos,TV etc. The temptation to lure you in to the pit falls .
I am not for, nor am I against it. I know good people that are Gay , that will not change the way I feel about them. I say however or what you do should remain in the privacy of your own domain. Not where ever you want to publicly broadcast it. That goes for what ever sexual preference you do prefer. Sex is a private matter . KEEP it that way. Have atleast that much respect for yourself , if not for you , your partner .
What ever you are.
You are wrong on every count.
Being gay is not a fad. It is not new. Hiding in the closet and not letting anyone know you're gay is not having respect for yourself OR your partner.
Homosexuality has been around for as long as mankind. In ancient greece it was expected for teenage boys to enter into a sexual relationship with an older man and to learn the ways of society from them. Many priests, monks, and nuns throughout the history of christianity entered the religious order BECAUSE they were gay and knew it was the one place they wouldn't be forced into a marriage they didn't desire. There are diaries from hundreds of years full of love letters, erotic verse, and memories of trysts between homosexual couples. One of the most famous ancient greek poets was sappho, who was a woman from the isle of lesbos (which is where the word lesbian came from) who wrote homoerotic poems. There are records throughout recorded history of sexuality and homosexual relationships.
One of the hardest things I ever did was come out. I faced ridicule, hate, rejection, and so much more. In my state it is completely legal to fire, evict, or even take someone's children away from them simply because they're gay. I knew there was every chance that at least part of my family would disown me and pretend I never existed. I had people at my college make fun of me and write derogatory and very hurtful things on my dormroom door. I even lost friends over it. All from admitting that I was gay. I wasn't even, and had never been, in a relationship with another woman.
Hiding your relationship from people, even if it is just the sexual side, is about as far from respecting yourself and your partner as you can get. Imagine being in a relationship with someone you loved and wanted to spend the rest of your life with. Now imagine that you hide everything remotely sexual about that relationship from everyone else. To all outward appearances you are nothing but close friends, maybe even roommates. Imagine how much it would hurt to know that the person you are with doesn't love you enough to tell everyone that they are in a romantic relationship with you. How disrespected and unwanted that would make you feel.
That is what it's like to be in a relationship with someone who, for whatever reason, is not out. Most relationships don't survive that.
Now, on the extreme off-chance you meant simply not doing or talking about anythig sexual in public, let me give you something else to think about. There are a million and one things that may not seem sexual but speak of a deep sexual connection to someone. Reaching over to tuck someone's hair behind their ear, touching their cheek, putting a hand around their waist, holding hands, angling your body so that you are facing just slightly more toward them than to anyone else, that smile everyone has when they look at the person they love, having to turn down every date offer and not being able to say why, spending most of your time with the same person, and a numberless amount of words, phrases, and figures of speech that we use onconsciously everyday. Now imagine having to not only notice all of those, but to hold back from doing them in public. It's not only the overtly sexual words and actions that people have an issue with when it comes to homosexuals, it's all the little things that they never notice, or find cute and endearing, in straight couples.
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Jun 24, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Can a gay pro create ? If not then it is not meant to last very long, for we as man and woman are meant too pro create. There was man...
From a man came a woman... Then came their descendents . Not man and man or woman and woman . How hard is it to figure out ?
Anything in between, mans carnel knowledge or desires.
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Jun 24, 2009, 05:01 PM
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Now that sounds like straight bible belt propaganda. Making any one who doesn't believe as you do wrong. Its not about right or wrong, its about the personal freedom to pursue what makes you happy, without some one getting in your business.
A lot of people are caught up in what's acceptable, and what's not. That's the conflict, and the tragedy, people afraid to be who they are, and that's a recipe for a lot of unhappiness. That's why people hide who they are. FEAR of being judged, and ostracized.
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Jun 24, 2009, 05:08 PM
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I do believe the heterosexual 'turning' gay or experimenting or exploring IS the fad 321543 is referring to, not being gay in general.
I hear it all the time from teens and young adults.
With the media, sex education and metro sexuals I agree that it is a trend if not a fad.
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