[tomder55]

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Wondergirl you have to get past the idea that they are peaceful I have said for a long time they represent a fifth column in western societies. You have seen how they behave in their own lands, what makes you think they will be different elsewhere? They want to turn every society they come in contact with into a clone of the place where they came from, some sort of sharia utopia where women are second class citizens. They possess no will to oppose the hardliners among them

This is true .

The jihadis' master plan to break us | New York Post

[tomder55]

Insisting that the Islamic State has “nothing to do with Islam” is likely to strike Americans following the news as detached from reality.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...islamic-state/

[Wondergirl]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...islamic-state/

That's a year old.

[catonsville]

That's a year old.

Might be a year old, but it is just as valid today as yesteryear.

[Wondergirl]

Might be a year old, but it is just as valid today as yesteryear.

Please supply a recent quote by him.

[tomder55]

Please supply a recent quote by him.

ok . His recent comment on the Paris attacks :

"I want to make sure that it is absolutely crystal clear that the United States stands with France and the rest of the world in our resolve to eliminate the scourge of violent extremist groups from the face of the Earth.”



He still refuses to name them by name . ... and the emperor told us the day before the attack that the Islamic State was contained .

[paraclete]

Originally Posted by catonsville
Might be a year old, but it is just as valid today as yesteryear.




Please supply a recent quote by him.

The isn't a lot of discussion of the ideology of Daesh, no one wants to attribute credibility to them, world leaders began using this acronym about a year ago. By the way we don't hang on every word of John Kerry

[catonsville]

Please supply a recent quote by him.

Picky, Picky I said it was as valid. Have you heard anything, that makes my statement invalid?

[tomder55]

The isn't a lot of discussion of the ideology of Daesh, no one wants to attribute credibility to them, world leaders began using this acronym about a year ago. By the way we don't hang on every word of John Kerry

How about Bolshevik Barry Sanders ? Yesterday he said that climate change causes terrorism.

[paraclete]

Yes you said that before what does that have to do with daesh ideology or in fact anything at at, just a politician trying hard to be relevant

[smoothy]

Little do the moon god worshipers know... but THIS is what they have waiting for them.


~

[paraclete]

Yes there must be a reason why all those virgins are waiting around

[talaniman]

ISIS is a cult, thugs and criminals intent on using drive by methods and religious rhetoric to scare you dummy haters into just the over reaction you have exhibited.

Like that fool who wanted to start a race war by shooting up a black church in Carolina. One guy who took action. 8 guys in Paris who took action traced to thugs in Belgium and Brussels, so far.

You guys just keep dreaming of a religious war just like they want you too. At least the French reaction is a lot more measured and intelligent, going after the thugs and maybe you should pay attention to that.

[tomder55]

ISIS is a cult, thugs and criminals intent on using drive by methods and religious rhetoric to scare you dummy haters into just the over reaction you have exhibited.

you are crazy . They now control as much ,or more territory as many European states.

Like that fool who wanted to start a race war by shooting up a black church in Carolina. One guy who took action. 8 guys in Paris who took action traced to thugs in Belgium and Brussels, so far.

In a couple weeks they blew up a Russian commercial airliner ,set off bombs in Beirut ,and killed over 130 people ,wounding twice that many in Paris. So no ,this is much bigger than a so called lone wolf individual. They have slaughtered thousands in the areas they have captured . You are the one who needs perspective .

You guys just keep dreaming of a religious war just like they want you too. At least the French reaction is a lot more measured and intelligent, going after the thugs and maybe you should pay attention to that.

It is not US that want a religious war . It is the jihadists that do.
The French reaction has been fine ...they attacked Raqqa to start a broader military campaign against the Islamic jihadists that must not be named . The territory they have taken in Iraq and Syria need to be taken from them .

[talaniman]

you are crazy . They now control as much ,or more territory as many European states.

Mostly desert, How ISIS Rules by Sarah Birke | The New York Review of Books, and if you add the other "cities" it's no different than gansters running there hood.

In a couple weeks they blew up a Russian commercial airliner ,set off bombs in Beirut ,and killed over 130 people ,wounding twice that many in Paris. So no ,this is much bigger than a so called lone wolf individual. They have slaughtered thousands in the areas they have captured . You are the one who needs perspective.

Nice rant but this is pretty close to my own perspective, ISIS’s Gruesome Muslim Death Toll - The Daily Beast

Now the report also details ISIS' horrific actions against Christians, Yazidis, and other minorities. But these events—along with the grisly beheadings of American journalists and Western aid workers- have been covered extensively by our media.
The killing of Muslims has not, and part of the reason may be because we lacked facts surrounding those events. After all, ISIS releases videos of its gruesome actions that it wants the world media to discuss but doesn't publicize events it understands can hurt its cause.

Of course you don't want your own narrative of a war against Islam to be undercut, I know Smoothy doesn't, or the rest of the narrow minded who feed the notion that ISIS is some great NATION with many followers. It's NOT, and why you would elevate local thugs to the great heights beyond what they deserve. It's that very perspective that inspires other fools to carry out the same headline grabbing tactics we have seen across the globe.

That includes your own dismissal of a "lone wolf" attack on the church a while back. The crazy fool was INSPIRED by racists, and separatists he admired in his twisted mind. Funny how easily we can ignore that part of our own society, while decrying it in others. We have already had TWO posters here say the KKK, the mafia, and bikers aren't that bad before you get your drawers all twisted.

It is not US that want a religious war . It is the jihadists that do.

Can't agree more!

The French reaction has been fine ...they attacked Raqqa to start a broader military campaign against the Islamic jihadists that must not be named . The territory they have taken in Iraq and Syria need to be taken from them .

It wasn't JUST a French reaction.

Raqqa activists reveal details of French airstrikes on Syria | World news | The Guardian

[tomder55]

and if you add the other "cities" it's no different than gansters running there hood

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how many of those gangsters are in the political leadership of the city .Your comparison would be true if the gangsters were the mayors ,on the city council and running the police forces . That is what the Islamic state does in the cities they have captured . They make the official laws of the city .

Of course you don't want your own narrative of a war against Islam to be undercut,

Yeah that was Evita's big lie in the debate . She was asked about the Republican talk of war with RADICAL Islam ;and she went on to say why she did not think wqe are at war with Islam. This is the same cr@p0la you guys do with illegal immigrants ....you talk about "immigrants " without making the distinction.

[paraclete]

I'm surprised the French reaction has been so measured. They obviously have enough information to know that there are a number of undesirables in their midst. Weapons including a rocket launcher have been seized, but what is once again being avoided, Tal, is the plot was hatched in a place inhabited by muslims and the attack was made against non muslims by muslims. Sure they may also have been small time criminals, it seems that these displaced peoples turn to crime however they possessed military weapons so they were more than petty criminals

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-1...ttacks/6944736

[paraclete]

Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammed blames ISIS attacks on racism

In an appalling piece the Chief Muslim of Australia has said we bring these things upon ourselves. It is very telling that he doesn't condemn terrorism but thinks it is a valid response. This is why we should not trust muslims

[talaniman]

I'm surprised the French reaction has been so measured. They obviously have enough information to know that there are a number of undesirables in their midst. Weapons including a rocket launcher have been seized, but what is once again being avoided, Tal, is the plot was hatched in a place inhabited by muslims and the attack was made against non muslims by muslims. Sure they may also have been small time criminals, it seems that these displaced peoples turn to crime however they possessed military weapons so they were more than petty criminals

Paris attacks: Belgium connection probed as terrorist past of Brussels district of Molenbeek under spotlight - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Young people everywhere in the world are potential criminals... we call them gangs here, and they have access to as many weapons (and money) as they need for whatever criminal activity they so choose. Especially in a ghetto and that's exactly what Brussels is.

Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammed blames ISIS attacks on racism

In an appalling piece the Chief Muslim of Australia has said we bring these things upon ourselves. It is very telling that he doesn't condemn terrorism but thinks it is a valid response. This is why we should not trust muslims

You distrust even the Muslims who have said exactly what you wanted to hear, Clete?

[smoothy]

Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohammed blames ISIS attacks on racism

In an appalling piece the Chief Muslim of Australia has said we bring these things upon ourselves. It is very telling that he doesn't condemn terrorism but thinks it is a valid response. This is why we should not trust muslims

This is exactly why smart people distrust Muslims... unlike most who lie... this one proved what most of us correctly believe about them.

They believe they are entitled to kill all non-Muslims. And that institutionalized sexual slavery (arraigned marriages) and pedophilia is acceptable. (again its not uncommon to marry off girls before or just after her first period (still a child) in many Muslim countries.