[talaniman]

Abortion pills do not cause abortions, they prevent fertilization as a matter of science. You can BELIEVE what you want.

[speechlesstx]

Abortion pills do not cause abortions, they prevent fertilization as a matter of science. You can BELIEVE what you want.

Who said they did? That was not their argument.

[speechlesstx]

They were challenging being forced to pay for abortifacients

The owners of the businesses have religious objections to abortion, and according to their religious beliefs the four contraceptive methods at issue are abortifacients.

[speechlesstx]

Naturally, libs are reacting as expected – they want to burn Hobby Lobby to the ground. I'm guessing these same people support gun control, and I have no clue how taking away a woman's livelihood is better than free contraceptives.

'Fu*k you:' Left-wingers want to 'burn down' Hobby Lobby after SCOTUS win | Twitchy

P.S. Do you moonbats not understand that probably a lot of women work for Hobby Lobby, Mardel and Chik-Fil-A BECAUSE of their owner's morals and not in spite of them?

[NeedKarma]

Do you moonbats not understand that probably a lot of women work for Hobby Lobby, Mardel and Chik-Fil-A BECAUSE of their owner’s morals and not in spite of them?

Nope, the employees don't care, it's just a job.

[speechlesstx]

Nope, the employees don't care, it's just a job.

So no one works in a Christian book store because it's a Christian book store? Ba ha ha!

[talaniman]

They were challenging being forced to pay for abortifacients

None of the contraceptives they object to is an abortifacient.

[earl237]

These last few supreme court decisions were really wrong. The buffer zone around abortion clinics should be maintained for safety reasons. What if some nut with a gun or knife gets too close? It has nothing to do with free speech. The Hobby Lobby decision is also wrong because it gives religious nuts the right to impose their views on things that are none of their business. The decision about Obama's recess appointments is pretty hypocritical. I remember George W. Bush used a recess appointment to put a racist judge named Charles Pickering on a federal court and I don't think it was challenged in court.

[talaniman]

The left prefers tearing little unborn babies to bits... since many of them got their jollies as kids by torturing animals.

Republican and righties never have abortions or use contraception? Yeah RIGHT!!

[speechlesstx]

Come on Tal, you’re telling me the Supreme Court doesn’t know what an abortifacient is? That was a direct quote from the opinion, as is this:

Nonexempt employers are generally required to provide coverage for the 20 contraceptive methods approved by the Food and Drug Administration, including the 4 that may have the effect of preventing an already fertilized egg from developing any further by inhibiting its attachment to the uterus. Religious employers, such as churches, are exempt from this contraceptive mandate.

I get it though, you libs don’t believe Christians should be able to operate their privately held businesses in accordance with their beliefs. Too bad, in this case the court says otherwise.

[speechlesstx]

Republican and righties never have abortions or use contraception? Yeah RIGHT!!

That straw man argument again. It doesn't matter If they do or not, and again HL was not arguing to exempt itself from all contraceptive coverage, just the 4 methods that work after fertilization. Get over it, you can’t force us to murder babies.

[smoothy]

Not nearly as many Tal, not nearly as many.

[tomder55]

None of the contraceptives they object to is an abortifacient

. What you have is a couple inconclusive studies suggesting that the morning after pill does not prevent fertilized eggs from implanting ;but instead preventing eggs release .And if the egg is not released ,it can't be fertilized. Nice theory ;but hardly conclusive and there are many that dispute that . As a matter of fact ,the FDA has not been convinced of this . Teva has petitioned that the labelling of the morning after pill be changed based on the study and the FDA to date has refused to do so.

Either way ;it is not important to the ruling because if Hobby Lobby had objected to covering ANY contraceptive on religious grounds ,SCOTUS found they had a constitutional right to deny their employees the coverage .

[smoothy]

These last few supreme court decisions were really wrong. The buffer zone around abortion clinics should be maintained for safety reasons. What if some nut with a gun or knife gets too close? It has nothing to do with free speech. The Hobby Lobby decision is also wrong because it gives religious nuts the right to impose their views on things that are none of their business. The decision about Obama's recess appointments is pretty hypocritical. I remember George W. Bush used a recess appointment to put a racist judge named Charles Pickering on a federal court and I don't think it was challenged in court.

WHy not? Freedom of speech after all. One form of protest isn't any different than any other is. Or more entitled.

There are plenty of aetheist anti-Christian nuts on the left... do you condone applying your same standards to them as well? Based on the mass shootings over recent years... there is ample proof the crowd using the Abortion Clinic bears a far greater risk to the public in general than the anti-abortion protestors do.

And as far as recess appointments... there is NOTHING hypocritical... because no other president has acted like he is some self appointed emperor when there wasn't an actual recess. Meaning they ALL did it while an actuall recess was in place. Obama however isn't as smart as the loaf he pinches off every moring in the toilet... or he would have understood as much and saved himself and his fragile ego from embarassment.

[talaniman]

98% of females use contraceptives, so you have no facts and your opinion is based on feelings and a lot of objections. Less than 2 million is the estimate for abortions so the number is and cannot be as high as you think in the first place

Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Abortion in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The rate has dropped significantly from its all-time high in 1981, when there were roughly 30 abortions for every 1,000 women of reproductive age. The overall number of abortions also fell 13 percent from 2008 to nearly 1.1 million in 2011." In 2013, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also reported a decline in abortion rates.^{[49][50][51][}

[speechlesstx]

98% of females use contraceptives,

Which why there was no need for this mandate in the first place, but it's irrelevant to the case.

[smoothy]

99% of females don't MURDER their own unborn children...

Condoms are cheap... buy them yourself. If you want to play adult games... assume the responsibility and the cost of playing them yourself. That's what Hobby Lobby and many others want.

[talaniman]

Modern more effective contraceptives take many forms, not just latex.

[speechlesstx]

Most of which Hobby Lobby did not challenge. Pick one and be happy.

[speechlesstx]

P.S. The FDA approved the sale of generic EC over-the counter with no age restrictions in March. You don't need a prescription, you don't need coverage, you don't need to prove how old you are, so what's the problem?