[NeedKarma]

I'm with Guth.

[smoothy]

I'm with Guth.

I highly recommend he takes a walking tour of the South side of CHicago at night... word has it the nighttime skyline is something to see...

And perhaps one of his own will take care of the problem for the rest of us.

[talaniman]

If blind people can have a gun, why can't crazy people? Doesn't matter who gets killed anymore or how many. Just bury the bodies and get ready for more. No biggie.

[speechlesstx]

I'm with Guth.

You wish for NRA members be damned by God and for their children to be murdered? I'm not surprised. That would be my navy veteran dad, myself and my five siblings - one who just retired from teaching and one who just retired from 40 years in law enforcement.

[smoothy]

If blind people can have a gun, why can't crazy people? Doesn't matter who gets killed anymore or how many. Just bury the bodies and get ready for more. No biggie.

No... just registered democrats... that will drop the murder rates over 75% overnight.

[tomder55]

I bet Ralph Erick Santiago wishes he had a gun.
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[NeedKarma]

You wish for NRA members be damned by God and for their children to be murdered? I'm not surprised. That would be my navy veteran dad, myself and my five siblings - one who just retired from teaching and one who just retired from 40 years in law enforcement.

Ok.

[smoothy]

Stare into the circle... and repeat... OH Bama AH... OH Bam AH.

[Wondergirl]

As a mental health counselor, I really locked onto this article by Charles Krauthammer in this morning's Chicago Trib --

The real Navy Yard scandal - chicagotribune.com

[speechlesstx]

As a mental health counselor, I really locked onto this article by Charles Krauthammer in this morning's Chicago Trib --

The real Navy Yard scandal - chicagotribune.com

I believe tom posted this and I agreed with Krauthammer.

[speechlesstx]

Ok.

God bless you, too.

[NeedKarma]

Which god though?

[speechlesstx]

Which god though?

Any one you like, unlike you I wish you well - not death.

[Wondergirl]

I believe tom posted this and I agreed with Krauthammer.

I looked back and see that he did. Sorry for the repost -- but that is what we need to concentrate on. Too many of these shootings have their seeds in mental illness or associated social problems. Unfortunately (yes, unfortunately!), everyone, even the mentally ill, have "rights." So where do we go from here?

[tomder55]

As a mental health counselor, I really locked onto this article by Charles Krauthammer in this morning's Chicago Trib --

The real Navy Yard scandal - chicagotribune.com

Me too
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[tomder55]

I looked back and see that he did. Sorry for the repost -- but that is what we need to concentrate on. Too many of these shootings have their seeds in mental illness or associated social problems. Unfortunately (yes, unfortunately!), everyone, even the mentally ill, have "rights." So where do we go from here?

The fact that he passed both Federal and local backround checks is one of the things we need to concentrate on. All I hear about is more restrictions and regulations where clearly they are not the panacea . I know you say that Palin's comments are 'tooth paste squeezed out of the tube '(paraphrase ) . But she made a lot of sense.

[Wondergirl]

I know you say that Palin's comments are 'tooth paste squeezed out of the tube '(paraphrase ) . But she made a lot of sense.

No, I said you can't put the toothpaste back into the tube once it's been squeezed out.

And the gun Adam Lanza used was properly registered. But he shouldn't have had access to it.

So what IS the panacea?

[smoothy]

No, I said you can't put the toothpaste back into the tube once it's been squeezed out.

And the gun Adam Lanza used was properly registered. But he shouldn't have had access to it.

So what IS the panacea?

Put the loons into observation and off the streets.

[Wondergirl]

Put the loons into observation and off the streets.

How do we identify the "loons," and what happens when they say they have a right to refuse? (I've had a few of them walk through my life -- friends, library patrons, and even family members. And yes, they can refuse help and any medical or psychological treatment.)

[speechlesstx]

We certainly don't start by politicizing the shooting at the memorial service. I mean for God's sake the man couldn't even take a break from being apolitical and non-partisan to acknowledge the shooting, now he has to push his agenda at the memorial service?

And then statements like this...

I fear there’s a creeping resignation that these tragedies are just somehow the way it is, that this is somehow the new normal.

No, it is not the "new normal," mass shootings are not increasing, and one more time it is not the gun that is the problem. The breakdown of the family is the problem, the lowering of moral standards is the problem, the failure to intervene with people as obviously troubled as this shooter was is the problem, the utter disregard for the sanctity of life is the problem - the gun is not the problem.

Besides all that, the guy passed the background checks in buying Joe "fire a couple of shots in the air" Biden's weapon of choice. Not the AR-15 the media reported.