[Enigma1999]

Well, let us not forget that her standards are low.

A driver taking her to McyDs and then to a Super 8 hotel for... more sex, MAY be considered "upscale".

[Enigma1999]

What is your degree in?

[JudyKayTee]

sorry that was meant tosay too much time on your pc than in the real world...

yeh it is ed up thats i fell for prostitute.. and yes i agree that i was not strong enuff for her...

but im in a state... can't see how i can get threw this...

i do have a decent job now, i left all the i used to do to be a good father... im well educated and have a degree, so dont make assumptions

having a go at me and taking the piss thats just not right.

Okay, you want to continue the discussion - well educated in what?

"Piss"? Is that one of your well educated words?

Again - all of this is MEANINGLESS. Maybe now that you're well educated, with a degree and a good job, articulate, maybe she feels you are above her standing in life and she's embarrassed.

Until/unless you get DNA done none of this matters.

(What does "taking the piss" at you mean?)

[JudyKayTee]

What is your degree in?

Creative writing OR fast food management.

[crazybabymother]

He is my son! I believe that I feel it also... I know he is mine.. that's not even in debate.

I'm sorry this has now turned into an argument, its not what I need...

And for some of you that haven't lived in a situation like this it is hard to get used to the idea of my life.

I live it though... u people just read a story its very different.

I'm going to pursue legal action

And remove all contact between me and her.

Thank you for all your advice

It was harsh and true. And has made me realise human nature a bit more.

My degree is in psychology.

[Enigma1999]

Perhaps take what you have learned in your psych classes, and utilize it when to read people better.

That way you won't get your heart broken again.

[crazybabymother]

Great thanks

[Enigma1999]

Oh and one last piece of advice. Even though you feel "confident" that the child is yours, I would STILL have a DNA test to prove it. After all, her profession consists of jumping into bed with other men. So you really never know. I believe you din't want to know who the reall father is, so that you can stay connected to her forever.

Any psychologist would know that...

[crazybabymother]

Thanks.

[JudyKayTee]

Oh and one last peice of advice. Even though you feel "confident" that the child is yours, I would STILL have a DNA test to prove it. After all, her profession consists of jumping into bed with other men. So you really never know. I believe you din't want to know who the reall father is, so that you can stay connected to her forever.

Any psychologist would know that...

I am restraining myself - maybe she was his class project. If I had a nickel for every person who was "sure" the child was his I'd have a pile of nickels.

If I had a nickel for every psychologist who found himself in this predicament, who had to go on line for help with this question, I'd have no nickels.

At any rate, Enigma - do you have any plans for breakfast? Pick you up about 10? (The menu changes at 11AM and I'm NOT paying lunch prices for breakfast items.)

[Wondergirl]

im well educated and have a degree, so dont make assumptions

Well educated? In what way? Please tell us more about that degree.

It took me nearly a half hour to fix your original post (without changing any of your wording/phrasing) to make it readable. No college grad should write that badly.

[JudyKayTee]

how dare u

u nasty pieceof work..go urself

Hard to believe the mother doesn't want this well educated, big spending, lucid (?), well employed person in her child's life.

The very, very sad part is - the mother is an acknowledged prostitute. Maybe she is an independent. I doubt it, because the OP was hired as a "driver" by someone else. She has a pimp. Yes, that changes it from "escort" to "prostitute."

The father is a self-professed Psychology major, barely able to express himself, cannot figure himself out (let alone anyone else), foul mouthed.

The sad truth is that if the child is to have any chance the father has to be any one of her paid partners, not the OP. Maybe one of the paid partners is educated and has some class.

Sad - the child has no chance at all.

And I'm not joking. I'm deadly serious.

[Enigma1999]

nasty americans

What is your location?

[ScottGem]

I'm going to jump in here. First, too much has been made of the "Fancy Breakfast" quote. I read it differently. I read it as a question; "Do you want to go for breakfast? Not "do you want a fancy breakfast?" I think the OP deserves an apology for that misinterpretation.

That being said, what seems clear is that the OP had a chance for a relationship with this woman and blew it. The OP's personal prejudices and biases resulted in this and he has no one to blame but himself. The girl has moved on and he needs to accept that.

So we come down to the child. As noted the OP needs to go to court to establish paternity and visitation if he wants to be part of the child's life.

There is really nothing more that can be said here.

[Wondergirl]

>I look at her and say, "Fancy breakfast?" "Yes!" so we go to Macdonalds to eat."<

[ScottGem]

>I look at her and say, "Fancy breakfast?" "Yes!" so we go to Macdonalds to eat."<

I believe the OP may be from the UK. Using the phrase "Fancy _____?" is a question of "desire_____?" http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/slang/common-uk-expressions-slang.html

[Wondergirl]

Ah, "fancy breakfast?" = "do you want to go out for breakfast?"

(((((ScottGem)))))