[NeedKarma]

I lost interest once the league expanded to too many teams, then the trades begin. I'd rather play which I still do, got a game tonight!

[speechlesstx]

at least I restrain my use of texting acronyms.

That made me laugh out loud.

[RickJ]

The Democrats are gonna get their butts handed to them. It's a richly deserved loss. They suck.

Personally, I hope that some Republicans also get the boot.

Times are a changin'.

There are some good Constitution, Libertarian and Independent candidates out there.

Years ago we were rightly afraid of voting for someone other than Democrat or Republican fearing that we'd be taking votes from the "2nd best"... but I see us getting closer and closer to people being fed up with the BS from many of the mainstream Republicans and Democrats.

[tomder55]

Some of the Republicans have been 'primaried " already. Some will be vulnerable in the next cycle.

Here is something to ponder. The Republican party was born roughly around 1854 after the Kansas-Nebraska act was passed.In the 1854 congressional elections 44 Republicans were elected to the House and several were elected to the Senate . By 1858 the Republicans won control of the House of Representatives .
Within 6 years they elected their first President(2nd candidate for POTUS) ,and the existing Whig party was rendered irrelevant and defunct.

That is how fast a party can rise and fall. The Republicans have a choice to make. They can become the Party that the Tea Party wants them to be ;or risk ceasing to exist.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

These are interesting times...

I've heard it said, because I said it myself, that Obama isn't unpopular, as the right asserts, because he moved left. He's unpopular because he didn't move FAR enough left.

This election will also rid the Democrats of their middle too. Maybe it IS good to have to TWO ideologically pure parties...

excon

[tomder55]

I think so . It is the job of the parties to persuade the middle they are the better option... not to swing with the political winds.

[RickJ]

I think so . It is the job of the parties to persuade the middle they are the better option....

I don't see this happening.

Both parties are trying hard to do so already - and it is not working.

[NeedKarma]

Both parties are trying hard to do so already - and it is not working.

Correct. As an outside observer I can't believe the divisiveness and animosity that exists in your politics - it can only harm your country, not help it.

[RickJ]

Correct. As an outside observer I can't believe the divisiveness and animosity that exists in your politics - it can only harm your country, not help it.

Amen, Brother.

[excon]

Correct. As an outside observer I can't believe the divisiveness and animosity that exists in your politics - it can only harm your country, not help it.

Hello NK:

I don't know. Yeah, it's ugly, but as I'm sure tom will remind us, it's been UGLIER. We survived. I hope he's right.

excon

[RickJ]

Yeah, it's ugly, but as I'm sure tom will remind us, it's been UGLIER. We survived. I hope he's right.

Again I agree.

We in the US can only hope that voters stop voting by party alone: that they become more active - and do more research - before they hit the button or lever on the voting machine.

[NeedKarma]

To be fair the people that post anonymously on the internet are some of the worst offenders. I have family in the states and they really don't care to discuss politics or won't look down on people who support the other party (like I see here all the time).

[tomder55]

I can assure you these are not the worse times . The founders themselves were more viral. Half of them were proponents of the French Revolution's remedies for political dissent. The battles inside Washington's cabinet between the competing visions by Jefferson and Hamilton almost destroyed the nation at it's infancy.
In many ways ,the ideological divide mirrors their competing views ,although believe it or not... the differences today are not as clear cut as they were then. The divisions have actually blurred.

[talaniman]

Americans are emotional, expressive people for the most part, and we have had a lot of that the last few political cycle and that's what we do. You have to overlook the spin and step back from the rhetoric and just go through the process.

Sometimes in our enthusiasm to make a point we overlook the facts, and just go with feelings and don't care about the facts. After all ask any American anything and we always have feelings, and opinions and just don't care about the facts.

http://democrats.senate.gov/journal/...cfm?id=277621&,
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/83057-290-bills

Of course, that's only the ones that the repubs didn't obstuct.

Obama’s tax cuts deserve attention - KansasCity.com

Ever notice the louder they holler, the less they really know?? Only in America.

[J_9]

To be fair the people that post anonymously on the internet are some of the worst offenders. I have family in the states and they really don't care to discuss politics or won't look down on people who support the other party (like I see here all the time).

I was raised to keep politics and religion a private issue.

[NeedKarma]

I was raised to keep politics and religion a private issue.

Same here. But the anonymous nature of these forums brings out something different in some people.

[tomder55]

What NK doesn't see is the picnics with neighbors that have diametrically opposite opinions. This forum is a suitable venue for airing out the differences.

And there is nothing wrong with anonymity . When the founders published editorials ripping their political opponents they frequently used pseudonyms . I suspect that was done so they could avoid dueling.

[talaniman]

But I love going back and forth with the fellas!! Wish we had web cams so we could make faces with each other, now that would be fun!!

[J_9]

But I love going back and forth with the fellas!!!! Wish we had web cams so we could make faces with each other, now that would be fun!!!!

My husband would SO get into that!

[tomder55]

Americans are emotional, expressive people for the most part, and we have had a lot of that the last few political cycle and thats what we do. You have to overlook the spin and step back from the rhetoric and just go thru the process.

Sometimes in our enthusiasm to make a point we overlook the facts, and just go with feelings and don't care about the facts. After all ask any American anything and we always have feelings, and opinions and just don't care about the facts.

Democratic Caucus's Senate Journal - Senator Harry Reid, Majority Leader,
372 Bills That Have Been Passed by the House & Not Yet ?Acted Upon By the Senate? (as of 8/23/10) - TheHill.com

Of course, thats only the ones that the repubs didn't obstuct.

Obama’s tax cuts deserve attention - KansasCity.com

Ever notice the louder they holler, the less they really know??? Only in America.

Love it . The Dems in the House think they did a good job because they passed legislation that the Senate has not passed. Thankfully there was barely enough opposition in the Senate to block them .They damaged the nation enough with their budget busting spending .

If the Dems claim their "generosity "in letting some workers temporarily keep some of their money is a tax cut then they are more delusional than I thought. Wait until these workers have to file next year... they will find out what kind of tax cut it actually was.