[firmbeliever]

Hey Hope12,

I know you are asking for Christian/Bible proof, but as I am not well versed in either I can only provide a muslim viewpoint!

Here are some verses from the Quran regarding Jesus/Easa alaihi salaam and trinity.

Chapter 004 verse 171
" O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs."

Chapter 005 verse 073
" They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them."


Hope this is helpful... :) :)

[silentrascal]

That is absolutely correct. TRUE Christianity reflects the teachings of God's Word the Bible, and such teachings of the Bible dispel falsehoods of men including the teaching that God is a trinity. The scriptures make it very clear, upon close scrutiny and examination, that God (commonly referred to as "Jehovah" - see Psalms 83:18) is the Almighty alone. Jesus Christ, is God's Son, a created being as clearly stated in Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14. As someone who has had a beginning, and was created, Jesus cannot be God or a part of a triune God. The holy spirit is not a being at all, it is rather a force that God uses to accomplish his purpose. Certain Bible mis-translations will change various passages to try and lend support to the man-concocted doctrine of the trinity, but the Bible as a whole dispels such an irreverant, blasphemous teaching.

[savedsinner7]

The Trinity is not mentioned directly in the Bible. However, there are verses that refer to the Father, Son and Spirit as being of One Mind, One Will. This is the reason many Christians believe in this.

Luke 10:22
All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.”

John 10:30
I and My Father are one.”

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Ephesians 2:18
For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Luke 1:35
And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 3:16
John answered, saying to all, “I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I is coming, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Also check out the names of God listed in the Bible.
The Names of God

[beatlejuice]

Saying Jesus is not God and that he was created is Blasphmy!

[silentrascal]

Putting Jesus and God on equal footing, when the Bible teaches otherwise is BLASPHEMY and gross disrespect to them both.

[Wangdoodle]

Matthew 2:11 And they came into the house and saw the young child with Mary his mother; and they fell down and worshipped him; and opening their treasures they offered unto him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.

Matthew 8:2 And behold, there came to him a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Matthew 14:33 And they that were in the boat worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Matthew 28:9 And behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and took hold of his feet, and worshipped him.

Luke 24:51-52 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he parted from them, and was carried up into heaven. And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy.

The worship of Jesus is Biblical is it not? Please explain why it is that Jesus is worshipped with out rebuke. If He is not God manifested in the flesh, then this would have been false worship and these people would have been rebuked for it.

[De Maria]

Hello Everyone,

First, This is what I mean when speaking about the Trinity. What is it?

The question should be, "Who is He?" The Trinity is Mighty God. One God in three Divine Persons.

... No where in the scriptures is Jesus referred to as “God the son” but he is referred to as “God’s son”. Take notice:

But He is referred to as God:

John 20 28 Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

2 Peter 1 1 Simon Peter, servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained equal faith with us in the justice of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 1 8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Do you believe in the Trinity? If not, state why you do not believe in it. If you do believe in the doctrine of the trinity then state please why you do and how do you explain the above discrepancies?

The apparent discrepancies are simply the writings of a skeptic. Someone who does not believe the evidence. In reality, there are no discrepancies.

As for me, I can look at nature and see that it is trinitarian. The most profound truths in our life are trinitarian.

Let us look at space and time.

Space is trinitarian. There is height, width and length. Yet all are seamlessly one.

Time is trinitarian. There is past, present and future. Yet all is seamlessly one.

Our very being is trinitarian as another person already disclosed.

Therefore, a Trinitarian God would produce a Trinitarian world.

A Unitarian God would produce a one dimensional world. And it is proven scientifically that a one dimensional world exists only in our imaginations.

Please state your understanding in the matter of the Trinity.

Take care, Hope12

I hope this helps.

Sincerely,

De Maria

[silentrascal]

Jesus is NOT God. He never was was and he never will be. Source? The Bible.

[Curlyben]

As this has turned into a big argument I have removed the offending posts
If you are going to discuss religion do so in a civil manner or stern action WILL be taken.
If you have a problem with that PM me.

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