[tomder55]

Now that Bundy has gained national attention ,I'm sure there are plenty of lawyers willing to fight his case in court.

[talaniman]

He has been to court, and LOST! I guess he can afford to go back, or appeal or whatever tools (MONEY) rich guys have to make MO'MONEY for free. Or mitigate his losses(?) even more. They government has agreed to split the profits from the sale of his access cattle.

Your guy is a rich squatter

Visit Nevada Indian Territory, one of the last major frontiers to be settled by Euro-Americans

At the western edge of the Great Basin lies a vast stretch of high mountain desert with sage covered hillsides, towering rock precipices and majestic mountain ranges. Indian Territory, Nevada, is home to three major Native American tribes: the Washoe, Paiute and Western Shoshone. For thousands of years their ancestors were the stewards of this land. Indian Territory was one of the last major frontiers to be explored and settled by Euro-Americans. This land offered native people the ability to sustain ethnic identity longer than other parts of the country. Even through past tribulations, they have remained strong. The Washoe, Paiute and Western Shoshone tribes still comprise a culturally rich and distinctive ethnic group. Today, the tribes focus their efforts on political and economic change. Tribal members look to the future with hope for a prosperous and environmentally aware society that understands the value of cultural diversity.

Its no wonder you can just give part of the story and ignore the resources involved which is oil, and water.

[tomder55]

yeah they need the water to divert to projects of friends of Harry. It's unbelievable that you are using the 'rich guy card ' in this situation . You really think the BLM is working in the interest of conservation here ? Dude ! Why do you think they backed off once the Reid connection was revealed ? Could it be that Reid doesn't want the negative press in an election year that already showed him to be ripe with nepotism and corruption ?
As I already pointed out .. the head of BLM is a former Reid staffer . Coincidence ? I think not .

[talaniman]

Thars oil in them thar hills, and they will get it, along with the water for further land development!! Ain't no varmits or land grubbin' cowboys gonna to stop it either. I can get with defending your land, but it's not his land, and he ain't paid for it's use in 20 years.

And he lost in court.

[tomder55]

look at how quickly the Feds can build a fence when they are using them against American citizens .



Man the Barrycades !

[paraclete]

Difference between a fence and a wall Tom, that looks like a few panels of stock fence left over from the roundup, looks like the muster of humans was successful

[talaniman]

If that's all it took to accommodate a peaceful, non violent protest, and the law to do its work, the fence is a good thing.

[tomder55]

yeah it is called a "free speech zone " (sarcasm font engaged )

[paraclete]

That's all you got left, revel in it, you don't have eminent domain any more

[talaniman]

You would rather have a 2nd amendment solution being implemented? Both sides are armed.

[tomder55]

One is a rancher protecting his family business. The other is the Federal Government working on behalf of the Reid family fortune trying to destroy the rancher's family business.
Did the Feds back down once the Reid connection was established ? Yes.

[smoothy]

The head of the BLM is Neil Kornze, formerly Senior Policy Advisor to Harry Reid and a major figure in the Western Solar Plan. He became BLM head March 1, 2013 after recommendation and strong urging by Harry Reid.(all this is on the BLM website) The corruption in this case goes all the way down to the county commissioners and sheriff. Hasn't been on the news yet, but Saturday, agents of the U.S. Forest Service knocked on the door of a southwest New Mexico ranch and ordered the owners to remove their possessions and livestock as the ranch now belonged to the Forest Service. Land grab is easy in cases like this... keep increasing the rules, regulations, and restrictions until the people using the land(for generations and generations) can no longer possibly adhere to them. Then, under the law, confiscate(steal)the land for political cronyism. Ranchers and farmers tend to be conservative in their viewpoints, thus being the opposition in the eyes of the current administration who believes in paybacks. Al Sharpton,the race hustler with the imaginary seminary degree,still owes 2.5 million dollars to the IRS... no agents have shown up at his place confiscating possessions.

[talaniman]

They haven't back down from enforcement of a lawful court order. That's still being pursued. Their approached has changed to stem the violence, as the local law enforcement has been talking with the Bundy for a more reasonable solution. Like mitigating his liability from non payments and fees through the sale of cattle they rounded up ON FEDERAL LAND.

Sorry you may miss your shoot out at the Bundy Corral.

[smoothy]

News now is Harry Reid and the Chinese have been in cahoots for 2 years for Bundy's property. It seems Harry is interested in having a solar project on that property and the underground of Bundy's ranch is also rich with water, gas and oil…fracking companies are calling him too.
Bundy owns his land and pays for his own repairs, but the government has found an excuse to strong arm him into leaving and are exercising their bully power by insisting on a show of force with the use of hundreds of costumed brown shirts, snipers, vans, and even the setting up of little fenced off areas with signs that say first amendment area. You are allowed to exercise your 1st amendment rights only if you are penned up in these designated areas.
His son was even beaten and thrown in jail because he dared film outside of the gestapo designated pens. When Cliven tried to call 911 to find out where his son was they told him if he didn't get off the phone he would be arrested and anybody from that day forward who called 911 was told the same thing. So, they pay taxes for police but are threatened with jail if they use 911 because the feds are trying to show that they're the bosses. And the governor? The sheriff? Someone? Crickets.
All so that they can take his 900 cattle away.


Excerpt from

Cliven Bundy's Daughter, Shiree Bundy Cox, Explains Why the BLM Came for Her Father |

[talaniman]

The round up continues peacefully and safely.

[tomder55]

there is no round up . The BLM is returning the cattle they seized.
BLM releases cattle to Bundy - 8 News NOW

Now all they have to do is confiscate him for the calves that died when separated from their mom.

[smoothy]

I think the Feds must be looking for cousin Ted... they didn't get the memo he was executed on January 24, 1989. Apparently he's been voting for Harry Reid for many years.

[talaniman]

However, according to the BLM, the deal does not absolve Bundy from any of the fees he owes for having the animals there in the first place........
In its statement, the BLM said its actions this past week were progress in enforcing two court orders to remove the trespassing cattle from public land........The agency director also asked that everyone involved in the dispute remain peaceful and law-abiding.

I left out the spin about AMERICAS cattle. Like I said, the process will continue peacefully(?). Its been more than two decades so what's the hurry?

[tomder55]

"Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human settlements cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market,"

Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes."

UN Agenda 21(The Vancouver Action Plan. D. Land )
The Vancouver Action Plan. D. Land - A/CONF.70/15 Chapter II - UN Documents: Gathering a body of global agreements

[paraclete]

sounds like aland grab to me