[smoothy]

I don't give beggars money, I know these people have a pension. this isn't the third world

And around here there are enough soup kitchens... none of them go hungry. Most of them are mental patients off their meds... alcoholics or drug users... the ones panhandling anyway.

Sure not all are but most are. I see homeless smoking (roughly $5.00 a pack).. and with cell phones. So you know they are eating.

I don't give them anything either... I do donate to charities that help the poor... and that also run some of those soup kitchens.

[paraclete]

And around here there are enough soup kitchens...none of them go hungry. Most of them are mental patients off their meds...alcoholics or drug users...the ones panhandling anyway.

Sure not all are but most are.

Yes like you would have to be off your head to want to live on the street. Yes we don't handle mental patients well these days, just leave them to their own devices.

There are lots of people helping out but the way to solve the problem is to provide places for them to stay and care, sadly, governments don't see any votes in it

[smoothy]

Yes like you would have to be off your head to want to live on the street. yes we don't handle mental patients well these days, just leave them to their own devices.

There are lots of people helping out but the way to solve the problem is to provide places for them to stay and care, sadly, governments don't see any votes in it

Why should WE pay for places for them to destroy... We used to keep them in institutions were they got their meds... I'm sick and tired of paying for public housing for the terminally lazy... I'm not paying for the terminally insane too.

They should open the Asylums back up... would help reduce the crime rate too... at least the part they are responsible for.

[paraclete]

Petty crime only the real problem is the drug dealers and gangs look you have a prison system keep them there wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway

[smoothy]

Petty crime only the real problem is the drug dealers and gangs look you have a prison system keep them there wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway

The one thing Mao actually did well... was deal with the issue of drug abusers... cured them once and for all.

[paraclete]

Yes a little work cures a lot of social ills

[tomder55]

The food stamp program also allows ADM and the other major food companies to peddle processed corn chips and high fructose corn syrup beverages to the poor on the taxpayer's dime. It's a multi-level scam.

[paraclete]

Tom the way I see it the food industry is a total scam but what are you going to do when you let capital tell you what to eat

[smoothy]

Tom the way i see it the food industry is a total scam but what are you going to do when you let capital tell you what to eat

We can let the Socialists grow their own food to feed themselves.

THe problem will take care of itself inside of a year. Most of them will starve.

Your farmers might make huge profits... but ours don't. The middlemen make all the money, and even then supermarkets run at a very slim profit margin.. But then.. look at how many of the younger generation really know how to cook. And by cook I don't mean take something out of the freezer and put it in the microwave,

[tomder55]

End the raisin subsidies... or maybe we can put them in 55 gal blue plastic drums and sell them direct to the Dominican Republic by passing the Food stamp recipients who are scamming the system.
EXCLUSIVE: Dominican Republic scammers sell welfare food bought in NYC and shipped in barrels - NYPOST.com

A Florida congressman has introduced a bill that would eliminate one of the U.S. government's most unusual institutions: the Raisin Administrative Committee, keepers of the national raisin reserve.

The raisin reserve is a program established by the Truman administration which gives the Agriculture Department a heavy-handed power to meddle in the supply and demand for raisins.

To limit the supply of raisins on the market, the government can simply take tons of raisins from the farmers who grew them. The raisins go into a “reserve.” They are often kept off the U.S. market: sold overseas, perhaps, or given to needy schoolchildren.

Sometimes, the farmers don't get paid a cent in return.

A decade ago, California farmer Marvin Horne defied the reserve, refusing to hand over his raisins to the government. The Agriculture Department took him to court, and this year the case reached the U.S. Supreme Court.

The high court sent Horne's case back to an appeals court in California, which will soon hear Horne's argument that the Constitution prohibits government from taking his raisins without just compensation. Horne's case was featured in a Washington Post article in early July.

On Thursday, Rep. Trey Radel (R) introduced a bill that would eliminate the reserve's legal underpinnings. It would end the 1949 rule, Marketing Order 989, that created the Raisin Administrative Committee and the reserve.

“In my opinion, this is nothing short of theft,” said Radel, a freshman member from the Fort Myers area. He said he had no ties to the raisin industry or to raisin farmers, mainly located thousands of miles away in Northern California.

“I think it violates the Fifth Amendment [principle] of just compensation,” Radel said. “Because there's no compensation. Because they just go in there and take the raisins.”

Radel's bill has been referred to the House Agriculture Committee, of which Radel is not a member.

Florida congressman’s bill would do away with U.S. raisin reserve - The Washington Post

Raisin Administrative Committee?? Really?? Nahhh the government isn't too big!

[speechlesstx]

I posted earlier about one raisin grower that refused to cooperate. Of course the feds are not happy about that.

[tomder55]

Can't get all those DC fruitcakes without raisins I suppose

[speechlesstx]

can't get all those DC fruitcakes without raisins I suppose

That explains it.

[tomder55]

Just read an article about the case where the author claims that the selfish farmer is practicing
Free-market absolutism and doesn't care if he hurts the collective with plummeting prices.

[speechlesstx]

Their absolute dedication to the collective is why Democrats get a pass on their personal behavior. It's why the Humas of the world and the Gosnell victims can be sacrificed, they'rejust taking one for the team. What's a few individual casualties for the cause?

[excon]

Hello again,

Well, if this has devolved into your ordinary b!tch section, nobody sucks worse than right wingers. I don't have to list the reasons. Everybody knows them.

excon

[paraclete]

Well done ex you were able to discern something positive out of that diatribe

[tomder55]

Raisin protectionism would most likely benefit blue state Kalifornia more than any other . I've already taken positive action . I boycott raisins in favor of craisins .

[speechlesstx]

I've always boycotted raisins, can't stand the things, especially when someone hides them in a cinnamon roll.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I've always boycotted raisins, can't stand the things, especially when someone hides them in a cinnamon roll.

Pssst.. Them ain't raisins... Kalifornia raisin growers substitute rabbit turds in the boxes headed for Texas.

Excon