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    Jul 16, 2013, 11:47 AM
    The Farm Bill MINUS Food Stamps
    Hello:

    What do you think about the big bonus legislators gave themselves in the Farm Bill & what they say about food stamps?

    Republican Fincher, TN has received over $3 MILLION since 1999 in farm subsidize. Last year he received $70K plus. He will get more next year. On food stamps? "If you don't work you don't eat" "This is other people's money" Yeah his...

    The second biggest recipient was Representative Doug LaMalfa, a California Republican and agriculture panel member who, along with his wife, Jill, is part owner of a farm that received direct payments of $62,857. On food stamps? The poor, disabled, children, veterans, and the elderly don't need them.. They should get private help or go to a church.

    Here's what the American Conservative website said.
    Christians need to seriously reconsider uncritical support for a political party that prioritizes lavishing subsidies on the agribusiness rich while telling the poor to sit quietly and wait for scraps.
    Is the right wing beyond embarrassment?

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    Jul 16, 2013, 11:53 AM
    That's only 1 reason I am all for everyone being 3rd party. I refuse to support crooks, liars and hypocrites that get away with murder bit throw the book at us if we were to steal an apple to keep from starving.
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    Jul 16, 2013, 12:11 PM
    Hello again,

    Right wing CATO Institute says,
    Whenever Republicans cut social welfare spending, Democrats claim that Republicans dislike poor people. By passing the farm bill this week — after stripping out spending for the food stamp program — House Republicans showed that the stereotype is largely true.
    Anybody?? (crickets chirping)

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    Jul 16, 2013, 02:17 PM
    CATO is Libertarian, but conservatives have been calling out both sides for their irresponsibility in both of these areas and still are.

    GOP to Taxpayers: We're Against Subsidies, Except If They're For Rich Farmers
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    Jul 17, 2013, 03:00 AM
    We agree ,the farm bill is a scam on many fronts including bogus credits to non-working farms ,destructive ethanol credits ,sugar beet subsidies ,and the food stamp program.
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    Jul 17, 2013, 03:50 AM
    Are you telling uus something about your agricultural policies we don't know? You adopted the same socialised approach you complain about in Europe. Isn't it interesting the rest of us manage to compete with you without the handouts
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    Jul 17, 2013, 04:42 AM
    Yes I am ;our farm policies are a failure and have been since Roosevelt.
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    Jul 17, 2013, 11:52 AM
    I wonder how much was thrown in for rabbit disaster planning.

    Watch him pull a USDA-mandated rabbit disaster plan out of his hat - The Washington Post

    In OZARK, Mo. — This summer, Marty the Magician got a letter from the U.S. government. It began with six ominous words: “Dear Members of Our Regulated Community . . .”

    Marty Hahne, 54, does magic shows for kids in southern Missouri. For his big finale, he pulls a rabbit out of a hat. Or out of a picnic basket. Or out of a tiny library, if he’s doing his routine about reading being magical.

    To do that, Hahne has an official U.S. government license. Not for the magic. For the rabbit.

    The Agriculture Department requires it, citing a decades-old law that was intended to regulate zoos and circuses. Today, the USDA also uses it to regulate much smaller “animal exhibitors,” even the humble one-bunny magician.

    That was what the letter was about. The government had a new rule. To keep his rabbit license, Hahne needed to write a rabbit disaster plan.

    “Fire. Flood. Tornado. Air conditioning going out. Ice storm. Power failures,” Hahne said, listing a few of the calamities for which he needed a plan to save the rabbit...
    Full disclosure, this was not an Obama admin reg, it was borne out of the post-Katrina response. If only they'd had an animal disaster plan perhaps so many animals wouldn't have been abandoned. Fortunately, the USDA magic-rabbit licensing enforcement division may be scaled back.

    ... Or maybe not. Late Tuesday, after a Washington Post article on Hahne was posted online, the Agriculture Department announced that the disaster-plan rule would be reexamined.

    “Secretary [Tom] Vilsack asked that this be reviewed immediately and common sense be applied,” department spokeswoman Courtney Rowe said in an e-mail message.
    You can't make this stuff up.
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    Jul 17, 2013, 03:25 PM
    Apparently it is possible over there
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    Jul 21, 2013, 05:54 PM
    Awesome, the benefits that are supposed to be going to hungry Americans are being shipped to Jamaica in 55 gallon barrels.

    NY food stamp recipients are shipping welfare-funded groceries to relatives in Jamaica, Dominican Republic and Haiti - m.NYPOST.com
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    Jul 22, 2013, 07:50 AM
    It takes lot of caloriesand time for welare queens to be popping out one kid after another every 9 months. They don't have time to get a real job.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 05:32 PM
    You can't make this stuff up or is it just another stuff up
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    Jul 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
    People that can afford Iphones and cell phone data plans for everyone in the home.. can afford food too.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 05:52 PM
    So you are saying you can swap food stamps for iphones, is that a successful marketing campaign
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    Jul 22, 2013, 06:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    so you are saying you can swap food stamps for iphones, is that a successful marketing campaign
    They swap food stamps for booze and drugs... Casino gambling... sex from crack ho's...

    Everything but food. Showing there really isn't a need for it at all.

    And for pennies on the dollar since they didn't earn it. It was free money to them.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 06:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    They swap food stamps for booze and drugs....Casino gambling....sex from crack ho's...

    Everything but food. Showing there really isn't a need for it at all.

    And for pennies on the dollar since they didn't earn it. It was free money to them.
    I don't doubt you have identified what some do, but where is the proof that the vast majority of those who rely on food stamps misuse the program. It could all be changed by insisting that food stamps can only be negotiated for food at selected sales points
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    Jul 22, 2013, 06:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I don't doubt you have identified what some do, but where is the proof that the vast majority of those who rely on food stamps misuse the program. It could all be changed by insisting that food stamps can only be negotiated for food at selected sales points
    Doesn't work.. legally they can only be exchanged for food now... doesn't stop them. A few crooked store owners in the hood and you have a racket going where more "food" is sold to people with food stamps than they have merchandise on the shelves.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 06:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Doesn't work..legally they can only be exchanged for food now...doesn't stop them. A few crooked store owners in the hood and you have a racket going where more "food" is sold to people with food stamps than they have merchandise on the shelves.
    Well the dishonest are always among us. I used to distribute food to the needy and no way did we give out certificates, you got your parcel and what it contained was food, no cash for ciggies or items not on the menu. Those who wanted something else went somewhereelse. We did a roaring trade in potatoes and cans with no labels and yesterday's bread
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    Jul 22, 2013, 06:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    well the dishonest are always among us. I used to distribute food to the needy and no way did we give out certificates, you got your parcel and what it contained was food, no cash for ciggies or items not on the menu. Those who wanted something else went somewhereelse. We did a roaring trade in potatoes and cans with no labels and yesterday's bread
    I think that's a far better system... like the homeless begging for money... you find out how hungry they really aren't if you offer to buy them some food... but not hand them cash.
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    Jul 22, 2013, 07:09 PM
    I don't give beggars money, I know these people have a pension. This isn't the third world

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