[egamemnar]

And the "proof" of him lying to social service to get welfare (a assumed that is what you meant) was allowed, we had his application in court, but no one seemed to care that he had lied, there was no backlash or admonishment, or even a word uttered about it.

[JudyKayTee]

and the "proof" of him lying to social service to get welfare (a assumed that is what you meant) was allowed, we had his application in court, but no one seemed to care that he had lied, there was no backlash or admonishment, or even a word uttered about it.

I was quoting you and asked what you meant - "and for the record, the lie to Social Services about not having another child to support came up in our trial a few years ago as I had 'proof' he lied. No one cared..."

I asked why no one cared.

[egamemnar]

I was quoting you and asked what you meant - "and for the record, the lie to Social Services about not having another child to support came up in our trial a few years ago as I had 'proof' he lied. No one cared..."

I asked why no one cared.

You would have to ask the Judge. He heard it, the application was admitted and that was the end of it. He (the ex) has since been able to obtain welfare even though he lied. The system is not working here in the way it should and it frustrates me that it doesn't. It should not be my responsibility to constantly chase this man around with money to get him to do what he is suppose to do. There are agencies in place who's job I thought it was to be sure orders are enforced. I have done everything I am suppose to do, I have paid thousands to have these orders put in place, thousands to support my son and his physical limitations, on my own and the only thing I can do is thrown more money at the problem> or, have my son get on welfare? Seems like there is something wrong with that picture. Doesn't it to you? Is this where you want your tax money to go, to support a man who is disabled (my son) who's father is perfectly capable but will not support him and he himself (my ex) is afforded welfare? So instead of my order being enforce, I end up supporting myself, my son and my ex his kids and his wife. It just isn't right. I appreciate you input but I am just tired of hearing that the only remedy is more attorneys and court fees. How is it that THAT is my only remedy??

[JudyKayTee]

you would have to ask the Judge. he heard it, the application was admitted and that was the end of it. He (the ex) has since been able to obtain welfare even tho he lied. The system is not working here in the way it should and it frustrates me that it doesn't. It should not be my responsibility to constantly chase this man around with money to get him to do what he is suppose to do. There are agencies in place whos job I thought it was to be sure orders are enforced. I have done everything I am suppose to do, I have paid thousands to have these orders put in place, thousands to support my son and his physical limitations, on my own and the only thing I can do is thrown more money at the problem> or, have my son get on welfare? Seems like there is something wrong with that picture. Doesn't it to you? Is this where you want your tax money to go, to support a man who is disabled (my son) whos father is perfectly capable but will not support him and he himself (my ex) is afforded welfare? So instead of my order being enforce, I end up supporting myself, my son and my ex his kids and his wife. It just isn't right. I appreciate you input but I am just tired of hearing that the only remedy is more attorneys and court fees. How is it that THAT is my only remedy???

And appears it IS your own remedy. I'm not arguing that with you. I'm telling you what the law is, because that's where you asked the long-ago answered question.

Yes, apparently you've been treated unfairly. Whether it's your "responsibility" in general does not matter. If you want your money it IS your responsibility, all theories aside.

Sure, post the name of the Judge and I will ask him.

In my area you do not need an Attorney to prove fraud. You provide evidence and proof, not accusations, and the Judge hears you. Hire a PI, spend that money, take that report to Court and get the matter reheard.

I don't know what you want anybody to say - if you want people to agree that you are being treated unfairly, yes, I agree. I'm rather puzzled how you can work for an Attorney and run up these high legal bills. I managed law firms for a lot of years, and that was not our policy. Apparently it's the policy of whomever employs you.

If you work in a law firm you should have sufficient knowledge and experience to handle this yourself. It's all about the proof.

I had a situation following my divorce. I could not find one Attorney who would handle it for me because it was a case of Federal Law vs State Law. I spent hours and hours in the law library (and I have 2-1/2 years of law school), and I represented myself right to NYS Supreme Court.

And I prevailed. My "ex" was playing games. I wasn't.

So handle it yourself.