My son is 28 but lives in a wheelchair, he has cerebral palsy and while cognatively he is fine, physically he is at about a 10 month old level (literally he can do what a 10 month old can) My ex has taken me to court to have our son emancipated, the court said no, and increased support. This was March 2010. To date he has paid about 200 total (30 here, 40 there) and is currently 27,000 behind. I cannot get our local enforcement to do anything. They took his license, but he still drives, he doesn't care. How can I get this support order enfroced? Please don't tell me to get a lawyer, as I work for 1 and he has tried to get it enforced as well to no avail. I was told by child support that if he pays something every month (although not the entire amount) they will not do anything. I have written to our governor who says "not my department" I have spoken with the attorney general, nothing happened. Basically my son is forced to take welfare to survive because this support order is not enforced and our state money is already taxed to the max. what to do now?

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Originally Posted by egamemnar

my son is 28 but lives in a wheelchair, he has cerebral palsy and while cognatively he is fine, physically he is at about a 10 month old level (literally he can do what a 10 month old can) My ex has taken me to court to have our son emancipated, the court said no, and increased support. This was March 2010. To date he has paid about 200 total (30 here, 40 there) and is currently 27,000 behind. I cannot get our local enforcement to do anything. they took his license, but he still drives, he doesn't care. How can I get this support order enfroced? Please don't tell me to get a lawyer, as I work for 1 and he has tried to get it enforced as well to no avail. I was told by child support that if he pays something every month (although not the entire amount) they will not do anything. I have written to our governor who says "not my department" I have spoken with the attorney general, nothing happened. Basically my son is forced to take welfare to survive because this support order is not enforced and our state money is already taxed to the max. what to do now?

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Where? If you work for an Attorney and he has no suggestions I doubt anyone here will, either.

Aside from getting my ex back in court yet again (and costing me money to have a judge see that again the order is not enforced).. mt boss has no idea what to do either to get those "in charge" of monitoring these situations to act. My ex never follows the orders and they are never enforced by those put in place to enforce them "The System" "Child Support ENFORCEMENT" Why is it that the non custodial parents are "protected" while the custodial parent has to beg for a Judge's order to be enforced. There must be some other way aside from another law suit against my ex that he will likely ignore. This has been ongoing for 20 years and the system is failing us.

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aside from getting my ex back in court yet again (and costing me money to have a judge see that again the order is not enforced).. mt boss has no idea what to do either to get those "in charge" of monitoring these situations to act. my ex never follows the orders and they are never enforced by those put in place to enforce them "The System" "Child Support ENFORCEMENT" Why is it that the non custodial parents are "protected" while the custodial parent has to beg for a Judge's order to be enforced. There must be some other way aside from another law suit against my ex that he will likely ignore. This has been ongoing for 20 years and the system is failing us.

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This is a question for the discussion boards.

The "system" is, for starters, overwhelmed. Get proof he's driving unlicensed - hire an investigator - and have his butt put in jail.

In a perfect world... It just doesn't work like that.

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Originally Posted by egamemnar

In a perfect world... It just doesn't work like that.

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It does work like that. I'm an investigator, an independent, and I work these cases (along with other matters).

Maybe I live in a perfect world.

You cannot post a question and then shut down every answer. You work for an Attorney and he's helpless in this situation? What about contempt of Court?

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It does work like that. I'm an investigator, an independent, and I work these cases (along with other matters).

Maybe I live in a perfect world.

You cannot post a question and then shut down every answer. You work for an Attorney and he's helpless in this situation? What about contempt of Court?

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Its not that I shut down every answer. It's that I'd like a remedy that does not involve ME having to again spend money to enforce an order that I have already spent thousands to get in place. What good is the Order if it isn't enforced by child support enforcement, prosecutors and judges? The problem is our system and the fact that there is no help for custodial parents via the agencies in place to help. Why doesn't Child Support enforcement enforce the order? Isn't that what my tax dollars pay them to do?

And why should I have to spend money to investigate that he is not doing what he is suppose to do. Isn't that clear through Child Support Records, that no support has been paid. The system is failing me and thousands of others and then we scratch our heads and wonder why our states are so broke. Well, have deadbeats live up to their end of the bargin or put them jail until they comply. But again, in a perfect world... And how would you feel if you knew that this same able bodied man was able to obtain welfare and food stamps , medicaid for 4 chidlren and a wife, lied on the application and said he had no child support obligation. So I am to support our son 100% then use my tax dollars to pay for him and his family to live because he doesn't get a job? Something is not right with that picture.

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Its not that I shut down every answer. It's that I'd like a remedy that does not involve ME having to again spend money to enforce an order that I have already spent thousands to get in place. What good is the Order if it isn't enforced by child support enforcement, prosecutors and judges? The problem is our system and the fact that there is no help for custodial parents via the agencies in place to help. Why doesn't Child Support enforcement enforce the order? isn't that what my tax dollars pay them to do?

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In my area - NY - there is no charge at all to file for contempt in Family Court.

You also don't need an Attorney. In fact, the people who are WITHOUT representation do "better" than the people who show up with a person in a silk suit and alligator shoes.

And, again, this is more discussion than anything else and should be on a discussion board.

Why doesn't Child Support Enforcement do its job? I have no idea.

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and why should I have to spend money to investigate that he is not doing what he is suppose to do. Isn't that clear thru Child Support Records, that no support has been paid. The system is failing me and thousands of others and then we scratch our heads and wonder why our states are so broke. Well, have deadbeats live up to their end of the bargin or put them jail until they comply. But again, in a perfect world.... And how would you feel if you knew that this same able bodied man was able to obtain welfare and food stamps , medicaid for 4 chidlren and a wife, lied on the application and said he had no child support obligation. So I am to support our son 100% then use my tax dollars to pay for him and his family to live because he doesn't get a job? Something is not right with that picture.

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I don't know what you possibly expect me to say. How I would or wouldn't feel is meaningless. This is a classic passive/aggressive question. PROVE your accusations in Court. Complaining/explaining here does nothing.

This is a discusson, not a Q & A problem.

And for the record I was divorced. My husband "split" for another State. It took me 7 years, but I got what the Court ordered by myself, no Attorney.

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and why should I have to spend money to investigate that he is not doing what he is suppose to do. Isn't that clear thru Child Support Records, that no support has been paid. The system is failing me and thousands of others and then we scratch our heads and wonder why our states are so broke. Well, have deadbeats live up to their end of the bargin or put them jail until they comply. But again, in a perfect world.... And how would you feel if you knew that this same able bodied man was able to obtain welfare and food stamps , medicaid for 4 chidlren and a wife, lied on the application and said he had no child support obligation. So I am to support our son 100% then use my tax dollars to pay for him and his family to live because he doesn't get a job? Something is not right with that picture.

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And for the record, the lie to Social Services about not having another child to support came up in our trial a few years ago as I had "proof" he lied. No one cared...

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and for the record, the lie to Social Services about not having another child to support came up in our trial a few years ago as I had "proof" he lied. No one cared....

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Okay, let's do this. How do you want me to respond?

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Okay, let's do this. How do you want me to respond?

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You can direct me how I can try and change the laws in order that Child Support Enforcement enforces orders. And trust me when I tell you, I am dead serious. If you have direction I'd love to hear it. It should not be necessary to go back to court for an Order when you already have one and there is an agency who's job it is to enforce those particular orders.

The problem is that the State I live in is not doing enough where enforcement is concerned and that needs to change.
Social Services needs to be aware of the circumstances before they had out my hard earned tax dollars to some dead beat who doesn't pay child support. Wouldn't you agree?

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the problem is that the State I live in is not doing enough where enforcement is concerned and that needs to change.
Social Services needs to be aware of the circumstances before they had out my hard earned tax dollars to some dead beat who doesn't pay child support. Wouldn't you agree?

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Again, this is not a discussion board.

If you want to change the Law contact your State representatives. Post your State and I'll post their contact info.

Again, passive/aggressive.

This is what happens when you have children with dead beats or people with no moral compass. Or wasn't your "ex" always like this?

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and for the record, the lie to Social Services about not having another child to support came up in our trial a few years ago as I had "proof" he lied. No one cared....

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I'm an investigator. I investigate AND testify fairly regularly.

What was your proof and why was it ignored?

In all cases I have seen if you find bank accounts and income, though the court you may attach them.

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Again, this is not a discussion board.

If you want to change the Law contact your State representatives. Post your State and I'll post their contact info.

Again, passive/aggressive.

This is what happens when you have children with dead beats or people with no moral compass. Or wasn't your "ex" always like this?

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I was a child when I married... I was 13 when I met him, 17 when I got pregnant and married. I had no idea what I was doing... He was a boy. Now he is a man and I agree, should live up to his responsibilities.

"This is what happens when you have children with dead beats or people with no moral compass"

Yep it is, and lucky you, you get to sit on your high horse and judge others based on mistakes they may have made when they were children.

Good Day.

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I was a child when I married....I was 13 when I met him, 17 when I got pregnant and married. I had no idea what I was doing...He was a boy. Now he is a man and I agree, should live up to his responsibilities.

"This is what happens when you have children with dead beats or people with no moral compass"

Yep it is, and lucky you, you get to sit on your high horse and judge others based on mistakes they may have made when they were children.

Good Day.

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You left out the part where I asked if he was always like this. If you are going to quote me, post the entire quote.

Where did I judge you?

You want to know what to do? You've been told what to do and how to do it. You just don't want to hear it.

Again - why was your proof not allowed.

In my State, MO if a person is self employed, they will not attach wages (he is) He doesn't keep a bank account in his name (keeps most everything in wife's name) he let his 300,000 house go into foreclosure because the Judge was going to order it sold to pay me back child support. I was finally able to prove he lied in years before about his income and they did increase the support but he never paid when it was 200 per month and he won't pay it now that it is over 1000 month. He has been running from this since I divorced him some 20 years ago, but he takes real good care of his other 4 chdiren he's had since our divorce.
It isn't that I don't want to hear the "advice" you offer, it is that it isn't working. I am not new to this. I have gone through the proper channels to get an order in place and I believe child support enforcement should enfroce it