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    #21

    Jan 7, 2012, 02:07 PM
    Good luck and keep us posted please. All you can do right now is work on that passport.
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    #22

    Jan 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
    I am sorry "tickle" I was rude... a few vodka in my system didn't help... my apologies

    I talked to one a couple months ago... felt I was in love... she phoned me and sounded like an old newfie woman... FRAUD
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    #23

    Jan 7, 2012, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    if she comes here and i marry her here, can she stay?...i see above it only takes a change to the visa, i also hear she must return to ghana to apply for visa? which one is it....a or b
    ASSUMING this is not a scam as discussed earlier - technically maybe.
    You would have to apply to sponsor her for permanent residence, and in doing so you have to prove to immigration that the relationship is genuine. And with countries with high rates of marital fraud to get into Canada (such as Ghana) you need to have a LOT of evidence, and be together for quite a while before getting married and applying.

    Also she would need a Temporary Resident Visa to stay with you in Canada, which I believe you can renew (I am not 100% sure as my husband is from a visa-exempt country.. ). Information is here: Visiting Canada: Temporary Resident Visas – How to apply
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    #24

    Jan 7, 2012, 02:55 PM
    Thank you Sariss... that is very helpful... can I just marry her there? What is the procedure for that? Can she come back with me or stay there to apply for visas? Is the marriage valid in canada? How can I prove it is genuine... her family... my ex.. how do I prove I love and will sponsor or support her? I have lots of questions
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    #25

    Jan 7, 2012, 03:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    i talked to one a couple months ago...felt i was in love...she phoned me and sounded like an old newfie woman...FRAUD
    You are from the maritimes then, fish? I hope you stay on and talk more and educate others. Your input, as hard as it was to do, and accept your apology, is appreciated. I recognized really, where you were coming from. God bless
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    #26

    Jan 7, 2012, 03:14 PM
    Please realize that we see countless Ghana fraud questions on this site, so the minute a new one shows up on the screen, our spidey senses go on alert. We really want to keep people from being scammed and end up losing not only money but their pride.

    We would all be delighted if this is legit and works out well for you. It isn't a happy ending we ever see. Please keep us informed of how it's going.
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    #27

    Jan 7, 2012, 03:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    thankyou Sariss...that is very helpful...can i just marry her there? what is the procedure for that? can she come back with me or stay there to apply for visas? is the marriage valid in canada? How can i prove it is genuine...her family...my ex..how do i prove i love and will sponsor or support her? I have lots of questions
    I know nothing about immigration to Ghana - I only know about immigration into Canada as I am in the process of sponsoring my American Spouse.

    She would have to apply for her visa in Ghana, and present it when she lands in Canada.
    Proving a relationship is genuine would include things such as phone bills, chat logs, records of visits, pictures of you two together, pictures from the wedding ceremony, proof of things such as joint bank accounts and other affairs that have been combined, letters from family and friends who can explain how they feel you two are genuinely in love, etc etc.
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    #28

    Jan 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
    Yes, you will need to show a history together for a marriage visa. As for as the marriage there, you get married with a marriage license, you can have a pastor do the wedding and you have a marriage license, A marriage in one nation is valid in another nation as long as it is not illegal in your nation. Like multiple wives or same sex in some places. Validty of a valid wedding is not an issue.
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    #29

    Jan 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
    I don't really know why I'm doing this... I am just inviting an opportunity to get a negative for my answer I suppose... others have already stated this and the OP claims he is aware but any time I see something like this, I feel I need to input to maybe help someone keep from being scammed.

    I have an extensive background in dealing with online scammers. The fact that "she" hasn't asked for money from you yet in one month does not mean she is real. You have stated that she knows you are not about giving her money and she is OK with that. I've seen it. She will wait a while longer until you start proclaiming your love for her. Once she feels that you really are hooked, then it will turn. She may desperately want to come see you but at the time will suddenly have a problem where she will need money for the passport, visa, and maybe the plane ticket. Or it will come when her mother needs an operation. Or maybe something will happen to her that she needs an operation. I once dealt with one who was writing to me from her deathbed in the hospital after a near fatal car accident. Then I dealt with her "doctor" who told me how bad off she was and how $400 would save her life. Anyway, she is not asking for money yet because you are not hooked... it will come.

    I hope I'm wrong and that yours is the one that really works out... yet I've seen too much of this and I hate just sitting by while someone gets scammed.

    Good luck and please, as Wondergirl asked, keep us informed.
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    #30

    Jan 7, 2012, 04:53 PM
    Wow... I am really impressed with the responses. It gave me new insight and new awareness. I will keep you informed... I have learned so much in 12 hours... my appreciation to all... except excon.. haha. I am always suspicious... that is why I came to this site... thankyou again to all for the help

    no... when it comes to newfie girls... what an absolute turn-off. Not only is newfie such a turn-off an old one is even worse. Alberta born and raised
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    #31

    Jan 7, 2012, 05:04 PM
    Oscar, if you are indeed interested in having her come to Canada to live with you I highly recommend you join this site and post: it is pretty much THE best site for immigration I have found, the people there are SO knowledgeable and helpful.
    Family Class Sponsorship
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    #32

    Jan 7, 2012, 05:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    my appreciation to all...except excon..haha.
    I've known excon for nearly ten years. If I ever want someone to watch my back or tell me the honest truth, I'd ask him.
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    #33

    Jan 9, 2012, 03:48 AM
    You want to marry a woman you met online, that you've never met, and have been talking to her online for a month. And you say, "she wants to meet through video call and telephone", so you've not even seen her, or talked to her on the phone.

    I don't think anybody needs to be an expert to know this sounds a littl suspicious.

    Why it is suspicious, is that there have been many before you that have come to AMHD, with the same problem, only in different variations, but essentially the same scam. She knows you will have difficulty getting to her, and it will very likely end up you will send her money to come to Canada, and she'll never board a plane. You'll never hear from her again, and she'll have moved on to the next sucker.

    While she has you on the hook, there are likely others, all doing the same thing. Following leads that others have found for them, who also get a percentage of the money. That is the way scams work. It is all about the money.

    You may want to check out Immigration Canada for requirements on extended visas, etc. and also search for new legislation that involves situations just like yours, that involve immigration under false pretense. People are deported all the time for false applications- if they get here at all. Which I don't think your 'girlfriend' intends anyway.

    She doesn't want to marry you, she wants your money. Do your homework. Do some research. Don't get suckered.
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    #34

    Jan 9, 2012, 04:39 AM
    I told her of my worries... This is her response coppied.. "Mark i my self told u alot people are scammer online not only ghana all over the world,when u told me u are talking to someone from Ghana i my self warn u about scam and u told me there person is real and i told u they are all not real b cos of what happen to me online,u have to forget about this website thing, they are people like us how can every girl in is a scammer it does make sence to be honest,there are alot of scammer in everywhere but the are few good once out there waiting for mr right,tradtional marriage do i ever mention something like this to u Mark,i am a Good christan i dont believe in that thing,it is a local marriage,baby i promise i will prove to u i am real,i will go and collect my friend cam for u to see me is that okay with u"... should I worry??
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    #35

    Jan 9, 2012, 04:48 AM
    Hi again oscarfish. We are only doubting because this has come up here so many times before. Some have actually come back and thanked us for the cautions.

    I know what you think, but, but please be cautious and don't maker any rash decisions.

    Any news on your passport problem ?
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    #36

    Jan 9, 2012, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    i am a Good christan.....should I worry???
    Hello again, o:

    Nahhhh... I didn't know she was a GOOD CHRISTIAN...

    excon
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    #37

    Jan 9, 2012, 10:33 AM
    I am really sorry this is happening to you. Ghana in particular, or any other place around the world, but particularly Ghana, is known for scams. She is likely paid by the percentage, of calls she gets hits on. She is selling something- and that is love. If she has to 'borrow' a webcam, that is suspicious in itself, because what computer in the last several years doesn't have a webcam. If she is borrowing one from someone, why doesn't she just buy one herself if she is so interested in you. She did say money wasn't an 'issue', right?

    Most likely the person you will see on the cam, is not her.

    Try phoning her first. Ask her simply for her phone number. You will at least hear her voice before she hooks up the webcam. Ask her the name of the company she works for, and verify such a company exists- by Google, by phone, by Google maps even. Ask her for her home address, and her history- who her parents are, what they do, etc. If you are considering asking her to marry you, these are things you should already know.

    Just for a moment, pretend that she is trying to sell you something. List the facts as you know them, and as you have said them in your first post. You would be very foolish to fall for anything without asking a LOT of questions.

    Try making up a story. Tell her that you were let go from your job because the company closed down. You are behind in the rent, or with mortgage payments, and you may have to go and live with your mother until you get back on your feet. See how supportive she is then. Block all objections and excuses with more questions.

    Please face this, and save yourself a lot of grief, should she turn out to be like so many others that do exactly what she is doing.
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    #38

    Jan 9, 2012, 10:39 AM
    This is common. She will use her friends cam once, that will be a very pretty girl paid to do video cams. After that there will be a reason she can not use the web cam again.

    And of course she will tell you that she will not need something, at least for a couple months then all of a sudden there will be an emergency, and it is only going to be a little money.
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    #39

    Jan 9, 2012, 03:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by oscarfish44 View Post
    .....should I worry???
    I wouldn't worry at all... I would simply just not be sending her any money (or moneys as they usually call it)... I know it's hard to hear but we're not just telling you this to ruin your life. We are telling you this to try and save you from being ripped off.

    One point... any scammer I have ever dealt with always made sure at some point to tell me what a great christian they are. I think they believe that if they tell you that, it will make you believe them more easily. I told one that I worshipped the Great Haplopelma ( a spider) and suddenly, so did they. They converted from being a great christian to following the religion of the Great Haplopelma, claiming that they were only testing me to see if I "was true". I guess some do believe but they will tell you or do anything that they think will get you to give up your money.
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    #40

    Jan 9, 2012, 06:05 PM
    Wonder if you are the only one she talks to on line? You may never know, but for sure I wouldn't invest anything into this iffy situation.

    Look guy I would think it simply crazy to meet someone in person, and give them your heart in just a month. Online?? That's even crazier since you know absolutely nothing except what she tells you, and who really knows? Come on, you have no clue what you are even getting into, and you can't be serious about traveling to a strange place for a strange person, on a promise?

    NO WAY!!

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