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    #21

    Apr 27, 2011, 11:21 PM

    I love my wife, and would do anything to please her. How do I begin telling you. I cook for her, do the dishs for her, vacuum the house for her, fold laundry for her, take out the trash for her, pay the bills for her, not to mention all the odd honey-do-list things. Yes, I take her out to dinner. I love her!
    I have to say, this ticked me off.

    You cook for her? Do you not eat? You clean the dishes? Do you not both use them? You vacuum? Um, don't you live in the house too? Do you get where I'm going with this?

    I always love it when men think they should get some huge reward for doing every day household chores. Welcome to the year 2011, where doing menial labor at home is not just woman's work anymore. I do all those things, and raise the kids, care for the pets, etc. etc. I don't see anyone giving me a medal for it, so don't expect me to swoon because you do things that need to be done in your home.

    Bottom line, it's her body, and if she doesn't want to shave, she doesn't have to shave, even if you buy her a mansion, servants and a trip around the world. This isn't "do this and I'll do this", it's a matter of accepting that it's her body to do with as she pleases. You can ask, but if the answer is no, it's no!
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    Apr 28, 2011, 01:56 AM
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    Thank's Cat,

    My wife has never liked sex, she could take it or leave it. I have been trying to please her any way posible, but to no availe. You see, we are both born again conservative Christians, and have never been with anyone else. We were both virgins when we met. One other thing she says, is she doesn't want to look like a little girl. I have never said anything negative, other than "I can't see what i'm doing down there".
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    #23

    Apr 28, 2011, 02:24 AM
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    TK you following me,

    Good to hear from you again. I know some people are more old school than others in their opinions. But I also look at it as a hygiene issue. Look, I shave my face every day for her, because she likes it that way. I don't have to, but I do these things because I love her. Should'nt she do the same?
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    #24

    Apr 28, 2011, 02:41 AM
    Oh I pay no attention to names or try to connect dots.

    My wife and I make a time of it, we have a jacuzzi, a standard tub works just fine, some candles, a good soak, and have at it. All is nice and clean, at first, gets a little messy, but that's half the fun.
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    #25

    Apr 28, 2011, 06:43 AM
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    Sounds like a lot of fun! Wish my wife could be more like that!
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    Apr 28, 2011, 06:51 AM
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    Thanks Jennie,

    You sound like my kind of girl! I 'm glad that you agree. I won't bug her, I just hope that someday she will want to please me as much as I want to please her.
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    Apr 28, 2011, 06:52 AM
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    By the way, I LOVE Pepsi!
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    #28

    Apr 28, 2011, 07:03 AM
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    You have me all wrong Synnen! I can live without her doing this! I was hoping She would be less self-centered, and do this! We are both conservative Christians and will keep are relationship monogomous! thank you! Most of your answer is disgusting!
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    #29

    Apr 28, 2011, 07:14 AM

    I really wasn't going to wade into this but I got a stunning impression of how things are going and had to say something.

    You're focused on what your wife doesn't do and not really appreciative about what she does do. You've become obsessed with her shaving her nether regions. You've also mentioned how you, "Wish my wife could be more like that!". I think you are missing a lot of the forest for the few trees, or bushes in this case, along the perimeter. You've lost sight of the fact that you've got a wonderful wife because she won't indulge you on this particular desire of yours.

    Take for example if she wants to try pegging. This is where she takes a strap on dildo and takes you up the pooper. If she asked and you said no. How much badgering would she do? Would you ever concede to this? Essentially walk a mile in her shoes and understand her case here.

    This short sightedness is a common problem with most people. 99% of everything might be perfect but that 1% of the relationship consumes you and colours your entire interpretation of the relationship. That 1% seems like the be all end all of the relationship. It seems like 100% of it is going wrong because that 1% is wrong. It is hard to realize that the 1% isn't a problem and to appreciate all that is going right in the relationship. Don't spoil things because that 1%, or an unshaven bush, isn't to your liking.

    What I think you should do is rather simple. Stop badgering her. Accept that she likes her pubic hair as it is. Accept that this isn't going to change. Focus on what you have and enjoy it rather then grousing, *****ing, and complaining about what you don't have. It will be better for the both of you in the long run.

    Cheers and good luck!
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    #30

    Apr 28, 2011, 08:05 AM

    Most of my answer is disgusting?

    Why?

    Because I asked if you'd do something YOU wouldn't like to do sexually if she REALLY wanted you to--just to please her?

    That's EXACTLY what you're doing. You're asking her to do something she really doesn't want to do in order to please you sexually.

    You're not seeing that, though. You think that shaving her nether regions is harmless and sexy and you don't understand why she won't do it.

    Well, she won't do it because she doesn't want to feel like you want to have sex with a little girl. That WAS her answer, right? That she doesn't want to look like a little girl?

    Frankly, based on all of your answers, you're NEVER going to see her point of view on this, and are going to continue to obsess about this ONE THING she won't do.

    PS--conservative Christians do all sorts of naughty things in bed. Just ask all those priests who molested little boys. Or Ted Haggard. Or Joe Barron. Or Coy Privette. Or Earl Praulk. Or Lonnie Latham. And that's just a START. I have found that conservative Christians have the same kinks as everyone else--they are just more hypocritical about them.
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    #31

    Apr 28, 2011, 08:39 AM

    I only glanced through the posts... but all you can really do is ask her... and if she isn't willing... there really isn't anything you can do about it. But there was very valid points being made about HOW you ask... and how easy asking can become hounding. And nobody wants to do something if they are hounded to do it.

    But most spouses are open to many things if they are approached in the right manner... and handled the right way... and doors will slam shut really fast if they aren't.

    And as was mentioned... you want her to shave? Ask her if she wants to shave you first... but give it a rest for a while before you think to ask again.

    The little girl argument thing might be valid for some people when they are 18... but it's a pathetic stretch of the imagination once they are 30 much less older. I like women smooth... but I'd rather have a 35+ smooth female than a smooth 18 year old (emotional maturity thing)... and have ZERO desire for anyone that would even pass for under 18 much less actually be under 18.

    Plus there is upkeep involved... once you shave you have to keep it that way roughly every 2 days, or you get stubble that gets itchy and uncomfortable for the next few weeks until it grows out enough.

    But you can't overly focus on what you want and need... its really easy to cross the line to where you appear self centered and self obsessed and when that happens people tend to listen even less about what you have to say. You don't want to be there.
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    #32

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:23 AM
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    Everyone on this Earth is a hypocrite in God's eyes, that's the reason he came and died for us in the person of Jesus. Another disscusion, different day.
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    #33

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:30 AM
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    Thank's Smoothy,

    I have not asked her in probably 6months. Sounds like by the responses, I'm going to fight a losing battle. I'll just love and cherish her the way she is. Thanks guys.
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    #34

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:34 AM

    sawsall02 does not find this helpful : She doesn't work! She homeschools are 8yr. Old daughter, which in itself is a Big job. However, she still has way more free time than me. I'm fine and O.K. with her not wanting to shave, but why can't she do this one thing for me!
    Time to read the rules. My answer was not factually incorrect. It's my opinion. As per the rules of site you are not allowed to reddie (rate a post unhelpful) unless it's inaccurate, or dangerous advice. Opinion is neither of those.

    You don't have to like my opinion. That's your prerogative, but next time don't be so quick to hit the unhelpful rating unless the post is worthy of that rating, which mine wasn't.
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    #35

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:39 AM

    Did anyone think this topic would be so touchy?

    All this fuss over a bushy vagina.

    Get pass the smell, you got it licked, I always say.
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    #36

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:50 AM
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    Sorry, My apologies Altenweg.
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    #37

    Apr 28, 2011, 09:56 AM
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    Funny! I think a lot of women get their panties in a bunch over this topic. Thanks TK.
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    #38

    Apr 28, 2011, 10:04 AM

    Sorry, My apologies Altenweg.
    No problem. Just thought I'd let you know. :)
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    #39

    Apr 28, 2011, 10:08 AM

    That's because with the way porn is right now, guys think we're all SUPPOSED to be shaved.

    It gets frustrating to have that expectation of being like a porn star or little girl.

    I'll shave mine occasionally--but at MY choosing, as a surprise for the hubby. Of course--he never comments on it when it's NOT shaved, and he's JUST as eager to play with it with any appendage--fingers, penis, tongue, toys--regardless whether it's shaved or not.
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    #40

    Apr 28, 2011, 10:11 AM

    If your job allows it you could start your own... ZZ Top look with the belly length beard etc...

    Say this is how god created me...


    Keep in mind she's likely to not think that excuse is as valid when you use it. And she might even get upset.

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