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    Sep 5, 2009, 04:42 PM

    I didn't think Christians had the option of using divination of any kind, isn't it generally believed that the future is only known to the Almighty?
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    Sep 5, 2009, 04:47 PM

    Yeah they don't that is why I don't get into it.
    I think they would be allowed to be used for healing and things like that but I am not really sure.
    I know that for everything God created Satan has a counterfit so I think that there may be things Christians can use but only in certain ways. I worry about crossing the line.
    Like I enjoy doing numerology profiles but I don't get into the predicting the future aspects of it
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    Sep 5, 2009, 06:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Capuchin View Post
    But showing that there is a phenomenon that is not currently understood is fairly easy.

    For example, showing a green-red colourblind person that some people have the ability to distinguish between green and red is very easy, although showing the actual difference is very hard.

    Despite this, such phenomena are very rarely found. (If ever, i'm wondering if some examples that i can think of really count).

    Anyway, a contraolled test to show whether the phenomenon is real or not should be very easy.
    How would you show that the phenomenon of sight exists to a planet of people born blind?

    Of course, here on this planet, we aren't blind. To test if a person can really communicate with stones is fairly easy? Is designing a controlled test possible?:confused:
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    Sep 6, 2009, 12:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever View Post
    I am more of a seed person,but got a few stones too,just because they looked beautiful,possibly of no value to anyone else :).

    :) Another question;
    You have mentioned that they 'speak' to you, does this mean that you believe it has powers or a 'soul' like quality within it too?
    Yes, I believe that everything has a soul. Many american indian tribes believed the same thing.

    I just use the 'speak' because it's the most fitting word I've been able to find.

    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever View Post
    NoH,

    I can understand the intuition thing and that some can read people's moods at first glance.

    Or even have a sudden thought about something,which may come true.
    Or even be connected to loved ones that we are sometimes instantly aware when something goes wrong with them.

    I am not much of a believer in divination of any kind being totally accurate.Yes some get it right sometimes,but not always.

    Another thing is that inanimate objects giving off energy is something I am not sure I understand.
    Divination is never completely accurate. Accuracy depends on the reader's ability and practice at reading the signs. It is as fallible as the person doing the reading, and should never be taken as an absolute truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I don't understand that either but I know that many people use stones in the chakra's and so forth.
    In the Bible it says

    Luke 19:40 (King James Version)

    40And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

    there are other similar verses too.
    I am not sure how much into using rocks we are allowed to get into though because many paranormal things are used by the occults and so forth.
    I find it interesting and would like to learn more about it but I am not sure how far I would want to go with it.

    I have watched some of the David Sereda and Greg Braden youtube videos but I don't really understand them much.
    I think as long as you're comfortable with it, it's OK. Did you know the pope still wears several stones because of what they were believed to be good for at the beginning of christianity? Stones have a long history in the christian church.
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    Sep 6, 2009, 04:36 AM

    Yeah whatever you are comfortable with + God giving you discernment. I know in my spirit when I am to the point of 'playing with fire' but I also know it can be too easy to get caught up in something too.
    The Bible shows that most things are okay in moderation or used appropriately. I think a lot of things are like a knife too, used for good or wrongfully.

    I sense 'energy' when I walk into a church (even if I were blind folded and the church was empty) and I don't even have to know the denomination or anything about it.
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    Sep 6, 2009, 05:01 AM

    I've rarely been in a church that didn't feel like love and peace. Places collect the energies of the people who visit them.
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    Sep 6, 2009, 05:23 AM

    I sense different things about churches. Like was it spirit filled, was it somewhere that people just came Sundays to fill some sense social/moral obligation, if they were into some cult like teachings and things like that.
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    Sep 6, 2009, 05:48 AM

    The only churches I've been in that didn't feel 'church-like' to me were ones where the chapel area were used for things besides worship.

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