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    Apr 3, 2009, 02:10 PM
    So the Obamasses failed to exciting the brown shirts to action. So the brown shirts failed to win the propaganda war over Obama's $3.6 trillion (which was passed while Chris Matthews was getting another thrill over his G20 diversion). What failure? The DNC just greatly exaggerates their impact anyway:

    A quartet of Democratic senators joined scores of union workers and students yesterday in a Russell hearing room across the hall from the office where John F. Kennedy once toiled. Campaign-style signs decorated the room demanding "SUPPORT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BUDGET" and "PASS THE OBAMA BUDGET."

    "Repeat after me!" Common Cause President Bob Edgar commanded, then started a call-and-response chant: "We are! The leaders! We have been waiting for!"...

    At Democratic National Committee headquarters yesterday morning, party workers were loading minivans with Xerox boxes, each addressed to a different congressional office. It was a classic campaign canvassing operation -- except that the next election is 19 months away. "Supporters of President Obama's Budget to Hand Deliver 642,000 Pledges Gathered from Around the Country to Capitol Hill," announced the Democrats' news release.

    CNN and the Huffington Post dutifully reported the DNC's claim of 642,000 pledges. Network cameras and the BBC showed up to film the operation. "We had one of the big printers downstairs smoking last night," party spokesman Brad Woodhouse said.

    In fact, the canvassing of Obama's vaunted e-mail list of 13 million people resulted in just 114,000 pledges -- a response rate of less than 1 percent. Workers gathered 100,000 more from street canvassing. The DNC got to 642,000 by making three photocopies of each pledge so that each signer's senators and representative could get one.
    1984, the adventure...
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    Apr 3, 2009, 03:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Have you taken the pledge yet ? I had a neighbor email me the pledge asking me to sign on and it kinda floored me.

    Organizing for America | Organizing for America Pledge Project

    I tell you Saul Alinsky would be proud . The President has extended his Alinsky modelled perpetual campaign into an art form.


    Michelle Obama

    There is a new political organization being formed before our eyes . It's influence will exceed in short time puney groups like People for the American Way because it is a continuation of the Obama movement .It may in fact become a greater force than either political party.

    It is called 'Organizing for America' Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Obama HQ Blogger: Organizing for America
    The President calls it a grass roots movement for propaganda purposes but it is anything but. The full weight of the President and his political party is behind it.


    Obama launches message war - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    The Obots collected a thirteen million person e-mail listduring the run up to the election and they are enlisting as many of them as possible in this effort.
    They are asking you to sign a pledge ...... not the the nation ;the constitution ;not even the flag ...but to Obama and his plan.


    This is a big test to the concept of a permanent campaign . The President is counting on a door to door and emailing barage by his minions and this could be a template on how he fights future legislative battles.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/us...ol-zeleny.html
    Yeap! Haven't I been saying since askme.com about this very thing?
    I have been saying for over 30 years that we are going to be socialist and that they are going to send these 'brown shirts' for anybody that does not conform to the New World Order and take the RFID chip... Remember my post on the FEMA camps. They are a fact.
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    Apr 4, 2009, 03:02 AM
    The NY Slimes endorsed Nazi styled economic recoveries that the President is adopting this week.
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    Every so often, history serves up an analogy that's uncomfortable, a little distracting and yet still very relevant.
    In the summer of 1933, just as they will do on Thursday, heads of government and their finance ministers met in London to talk about a global economic crisis. They accomplished little and went home to battle the crisis in their own ways.
    More than any other country, Germany — Nazi Germany — then set out on a serious stimulus program. The government built up the military, expanded the autobahn, put up stadiums for the 1936 Berlin Olympics and built monuments to the Nazi Party across Munich and Berlin.
    The economic benefits of this vast works program never flowed to most workers, because fascism doesn't look kindly on collective bargaining. But Germany did escape the Great Depression faster than other countries. Corporate profits boomed, and unemployment sank (and not because of slave labor, which didn't become widespread until later).Harold James , an economic historian, says that the young liberal economists studying underJohn Maynard Keynes .in the 1930s began to debate whether Hitler had solved unemployment.
    Author David Leonhardt goes on to endorse a massive stimulus approach for the current economic downturn similar to the one that is being adopted here.

    I guess we should just forget that part of the German economic recovery meant the massive confiscation of the private wealth of the German Jews ;their homes, businesses, land and gold were all seized as Hitler stoked envy against that segment of the population. (last week Obama told the bankers in a meeting at the White House that he was the only thing that stood between them and the pitch forks... this after his government's rhetoric inflamed the masses against the bankers ).Hitler was the rock star of his time with people ,especially intellectuals ,on both sides of the Atlantic defending his actions. (for more on this read The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze, and Hitler's Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State by Gotz Aly.)

    Leonhardt is one of these defenders of Obamanomics who concedes the New Deal was a failure;but the reason it failed in his view is that FDR did not spend enough to get the US out of the depression.
    Later in the article he points out that Roosevelt did "spend us out of the depression" when he mobilized for WWII.

    So in other words ;the way to economic recovery is the ramp up military spending .But what he conveniently forgets to add is that 15 million Americans were also under arms which did wonders to the unemployment rates (the same is true of the German unemployment rate in the 1930s).
    Leonhardt also fails to point out that for Hitler's scheme to work he needed wars of conquest.
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    Apr 4, 2009, 04:02 AM
    Can't wait until the old folks die off so we hear less of this doomsaying.
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    Apr 5, 2009, 10:55 AM

    Yeah then you can LIVE in doomsday- what a peaceful bliss.

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