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    #21

    Oct 14, 2008, 07:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    We're supposed to brush off the sleaze of the guy who took his place after all that?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Apparently YOU didn't brush it off. Apparently you read about it SOMEWHERE. So the press IS reporting it, and you're free to brush off whatever you like.

    I don't see he connection between what the press reports, and my (or your) political persuasion. Frankly, Steve, neither you OR I are the type of guys who brush off what the press, liberal or otherwise, tells us to. Yes, it IS a shame that there are people who believe anything they're told. What else is new?

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    Oct 14, 2008, 07:51 AM

    Mahoney's campaign slogan ?
    "a world that is safer, more moral."
    Lol
    Lets not forget that the real news is that Dem House leaders knew about it and tried to cover it up even after they ran a campaign based on Republicans covering up the Foley issue.

    Mark Fowley - “insufficient evidence” according to the prosecution... but he was forced to resign anyway and the Democrats gained a majority in the House in no small part because of the Foley scandal .


    Emanuel and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen both admit that they talked to Mahoney about this before the scandal broke .So they have been complicit in covering this up .

    Will the MSM make that clear in the next few weeks ? I'll believe it when the Palm Beach Compost retracts their endorsement.
    Mahoney has delivered
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    Oct 14, 2008, 07:53 AM
    Apparently you read about it SOMEWHERE.
    Well when I see Katie Couric lead with the story every day for 3 weeks then I will believe there is equivalent reporting being done. When I see the NY Slimes have a weeks worth of front page headlines about it I will think they are giving it equal weight.
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    Oct 14, 2008, 08:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Well when I see Katie Couric lead with the story every day for 3 weeks then I will believe there is equivalent reporting being done. When I see the NY Slimes have a weeks worth of front page headlines about it I will think they are giving it equal weight.
    Hello again, tom:

    Three weeks leading on CBS?? A weeks worth of front page on the NY Times?? For WHO?? Mahoney??

    Baloney!!

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    Oct 14, 2008, 08:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Apparently YOU didn't brush it off. Apparently you read about it SOMEWHERE. So the press IS reporting it, and you're free to brush off whatever you like.
    I certainly didn't read it in my paper, haven't seen it on the news, I was informed of it in an email yesterday.

    I don't see he connection between what the press reports, and my (or your) political persuasion. Frankly, Steve, neither you OR I are the type of guys who brush off what the press, liberal or otherwise, tells us to. Yes, it IS a shame that there are people who believe anything they're told. What else is new?
    AP, Reuters, BBC, USA Today, the NY Times, LA Times, virtually every major news source is decidedly, obviously, sometimes admittedly liberally biased in their coverage. That's what makes it even more of a shame "that there are people who believe anything they're told."
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    Oct 14, 2008, 08:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I certainly didn't read it in my paper, haven't seen it on the news, I was informed of it in an email yesterday. AP, Reuters, BBC, USA Today, the NY Times, LA Times, virtually every major news source is decidedly, obviously, sometimes admittedly liberally biased in their coverage. That's what makes it even more of a shame "that there are people who believe anything they're told."
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, but the Republican base doesn't read that stuff. They listen to the O'Reilly's and the Limprod's out there - and THEY believe that CRAP.

    I'd say we're even on the dissemination of spun up news.

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    Oct 14, 2008, 08:34 AM

    Three weeks leading on CBS?? A weeks worth of front page on the NY Times?? For WHO?? Mahoney??

    Baloney!!
    For Foley in the middle of an election cycle ? Baloney!! And yet it happened .
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    Oct 14, 2008, 09:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, but the Republican base doesn't read that stuff. They listen to the O'Reilly's and the Limprod's out there - and THEY believe that CRAP.

    I'd say we're even on the dissemination of spun up news.
    And I've listened to enough talk radio to know which callers tend to be unhinged dupes and which tend to be rational people who think for themselves. By far, the brainwashed kooks are lefties.
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    #29

    Oct 14, 2008, 10:40 AM
    Don't be shocked, but I'm giving kudos to ABC for following up on this. ABC has audio of Mahoney - the guy that replaced the disgraced Mark Foley and promised a "a world that is safer, more moral" - firing his mistress with some of that much heralded liberal compassion. ABC's transcript:

    "You work at my pleasure," Congressman Mahoney told Allen on a January 20, 2008 telephone call that was recorded and played for Mahoney staffers. ABC News was provided a copy.

    "If you do the job that I think you should do, you get to keep your job. Whenever I don't feel like you're doing your job, then you lose your job," Mahoney can be heard telling Allen.

    "And guess what? The only person that matters is guess who? Me. You understand that. That is how life really is. That is how it works," Mahoney says on the call.

    "You're fired," Mahoney tells her. "Do you hear me? Don't tell me whether it's correct or not."

    Allen says, "Tell me why else I'm fired."

    "There is no why else," Mahoney responds.

    Later, Allen says, "You're firing me for other reasons. You don't, you're not man enough to say it. So why don't you say it."

    The portion of the tape provided to ABC News cuts off when the two begin a profanity-laced argument.
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    #30

    Oct 14, 2008, 04:11 PM
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    Now that was an even more pathetic attack.

    Let's see if I'm half as pathetic in your pastor's eyes, as you are a hypocrite. How's that email to your pastor coming along? :rolleyes:
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    #31

    Oct 14, 2008, 04:59 PM
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    Let's see if I'm half as pathetic in your pastor's eyes, as you are a hypocrite. How's that email to your pastor coming along? :rolleyes:
    For an "expert" on Christianity, you've obviously you've missed the boat on understanding repentance and forgiveness. It's really very fundamental, I'm surprised you can't grasp the concept.
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    #32

    Oct 14, 2008, 05:11 PM

    I know your NT book better than most Christians, and perhaps better than you. Don't let your opinion of me sidetrack you from shooting an email over to your pastor on this post. Please be my guest. ;)
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    Oct 15, 2008, 04:52 AM
    Do you know this one? "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness."
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    #34

    Oct 15, 2008, 10:48 AM

    ABC News continues to fly solo on this story :
    ABC News: FBI Reported to Begin Probe of Florida Congressman
    But it is not in their main section.. it is is in a separate "investigative" section of their web site .
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    #35

    Oct 15, 2008, 11:01 AM
    This thing could be picking up a little traction. There was a brief mention in our paper from AP, and WaPo is reporting “a person close to his campaign told The Associated Press that Mahoney also was having an affair with a second woman around the same time.”

    What he meant by a world “more moral” is becoming much clearer.
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    Oct 15, 2008, 11:03 AM

    But no way Madame Mimi allows the Ethics Committee to investigate until after the election.
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    #37

    Oct 15, 2008, 11:05 AM

    Someone should tell him to scrub his campaign website:

    Everything broke right for Rep. Mahoney, D-Palm Beach Gardens, in 2006. Six weeks before the election, 12-year GOP incumbent Mark Foley remained the strong favorite in U.S. House District 16. Then came revelations of Foley's lewd e-mails to underage pages.
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    #38

    Oct 15, 2008, 12:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Do you know this one? "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness."

    Sure. I read that in the NT. It reminds me of self-proclaimed Christians that make up their own rules. But what does that have to do with you emailing your pastor and running a few posts by him??
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    #39

    Oct 15, 2008, 12:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    Sure. I read that in the NT. It reminds me of self-proclaimed Christians that make up their own rules. But what does that have to do with you emailing your pastor and running a few posts by him???
    This...

    3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

    4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

    5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. --Matthew 7:3-5 NIV
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    Oct 15, 2008, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    This...

    3 "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

    4 How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

    5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. --Matthew 7:3-5 NIV

    Exactly. You don't have to convince me. I think it identifies some of your recent posts perfectly. I'm just waiting for you to email your pastor the recent dialogue, so you could hear it from him since you don't trust me.

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