[NeedKarma]

We love it here. :)

[ETWolverine]

So you don't mind if a policeman stop your car on the street for no reason and begins searching it then?

Once he stops my car, he IS inhibiting my rights. However, I would have no problem with him using electronic equipment to scan my car from a distance (for bombs, guns, whatever), as long as he doesn't stop me from going on my merry way unless I am breaking the law.

I guess we operate differently here.

Yeah, I guess so. I operate in the real world, where if nothing is being done to inhibit your rights, who gives a damn what the government does. You must be from somewhere else.

BTW, for the record, I find that whole license plate issue to be stupid. Let the man have his plate, it encourages nothing.

In that we are in agreement.

Elliot

[NeedKarma]

You must be from somewhere else.

I'm from Canada, I though you knew that.

[Choux]

And... Bush wants the low level bureaucrats of the verious Dept of Motor Vehicles (and related state bureaucracies), people who issue DRIVERS LICENSES while half-asleep---Bush wants the State Drivers' Licenses be the official identification card for really serious matters!!

Almost eight years, and no official American Citizen Identification Card issued at police stations for citizens and people in the country legally. GUESS WHO'S NOT SERIOUS ABOUT CONTROLLING THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM, FOLKS.

This is an example of the fascist govermnent... the power of the federal government married to large corporate interests... for the benefit of both, while average folks are mad as heck over government spending their tax money on services for illegals... and, as the average citizen suffers financially.

[labman]

Maybe we do need to look at the hazards of letting Christians drive. I saw a car today with a bumper sticker that said ''In case of Rapture, this car will be unmanned'' .

[tickle]

Once he stops my car, he IS inhibiting my rights. However, I would have no problem with him using electronic equipment to scan my car from a distance (for bombs, guns, whatever), as long as he doesn't stop me from going on my merry way unless I am breaking the law.



Yeah, I guess so. I operate in the real world, where if nothing is being done to inhibit your rights, who gives a damn what the govenment does. You must be from somewhere else.



In that we are in agreement.

Elliot

All highways in Ontario are owned by the government and patrolled by government employees, i.e.. Ontario Provincial Police, if they find someone going over the speed limit excessively and endangering other motorists, then you get stopped. So you are saying, the OPP has to approach your car with electronic surveillance equipment before he even talks to you. Is that what you mean? That isn't going to happen. You get a citation and if he feels you are acting supiciously, then he has the right to inspect your car under the Highway Safety Act.

But you know fella, if you are from the States then you get treated respectfully if you are stopped. When I was stopped on I75 for over the speed limit, I wasn't treated that way, and I had to pay on the spot.

ms. tickle

[Choux]

Tom,

Rudy guilliani suggested an identification card in one of his answers during the republican debate last night...