[BABRAM]

Interesting that you would frame it as "they wanted a voice and to be heard from." Should we not have a voice and have our voice heard?

I have to frame in that respect since I'm not specfically one of the them. If I said "us", it would be dishonest. I give the evenglical Christians equal respect of having the voice that they made loud and clear for the past two elections. I was listening.

Absolutely we should, we have as much right to have our voice in politics as anyone else. But you seem to have the notion that "having a voice" means we can only support candidates that toe that fundamental evangelical line. That's never been the case Bobby, circumstances have never been perfect enough for us to do that.

Steve, here is where the "hypocritical" rub will come into play. The issues such as Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice are high on the Evangelicals list. Remember that was what brought about our discussion. Rudy supports Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay rights. Now maybe those particular issues mean less to you (and I know you are a Christian). But I'm focusing in on those that are in the category of the evangelical conservative Christian. They believe all forms of abortion is murder.

I'll give you this much, it will be interesting to see the reaction from Dobson and Robertson if Rudy is the nominee. But here's a hint, the masses have never given blind loyalty to any of those guys (in fact a large number of us still cringe at Pat Robertson) and we aren't going to start now.

I would be worried about you if you didn't cringe at Pat Robertson.



Bobby

[speechlesstx]

Steve, here is where the "hypocritical" rub will come into play. The issues such as Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice are high on the Evangelicals list. Remember that was what brought about our discussion. Rudy supports Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay rights. Now maybe those particular issues mean less to you (and I know you are a Christian). But I'm focusing in on those that are in the category of the evangelical conservative Christian. They believe all forms of abortion is murder.

Absolutely, I understand what comes into play here, I'm just wondering what the evangelicals are supposed to do once Brownback and Huckabee fizzle out. Stay home?

I would be worried about you if you didn't cringe at Pat Robertson.

That never stopped some :D

[Barbara Robbins]

Can I apply for a divorce without a lawyer?

[speechlesstx]

Oh yeah, the Republicans have been so protective of opponents' personal lives (what was the Clinton impeachment about again?)

Gayboy, you seem to have unwittingly affirmed my point. Clinton's personal life was nobody's business they say... but Giuliani's is? The left needs to make up their mind.