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    #21

    Aug 13, 2007, 10:08 AM
    That's really a stupid question.

    Whether the roles are reversed or not, it is sick, sick, sick. If a 19 year old boy cam here calling for my daughter, he would be looking down the barrel of a shotgun. PERIOD!

    19 year olds and 14 year olds are in two totally different stages of life psychologically. A 19 year old is in college and a 14 year old is in middle school. Two completely different lifestyles.
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    #22

    Aug 13, 2007, 10:10 AM
    Your right sort of but I'm not going to argue with you on this matter because we have different views...


    Jay15forever Follow your heart that's all I can say besides talk to your parents about it
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    #23

    Aug 13, 2007, 10:13 AM
    We aren't right sort of. WE ARE RIGHT!! We are parents, we have been teens before.

    If you don't believe it is illegal, just look here

    A table of worldwide ages of consent, including US states
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    #24

    Aug 13, 2007, 10:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    your right sorta but i'm not going to argue with you on this matter because we have different views...


    Jay15forever Follow your heart thats all i can say besides talk to your parents about it
    It's not a matter of opinion there are laws. Do you understand the difference between law and opinion? If it was just a matter of following your heart then we would have laws like France where a 14 year old can carry on with whomever he or she chooses. However we don't have the same "L'Amour, C'est La vie" idea. We recognize that a 14 year old is a child and needs to be protected against the influences of an adult. 14 year olds need to be protected from sexual predators.

    This 19 year old is a pedophile, not my opinion by an adult who seeks out relationships with children is a pedophile that is fact.
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    #25

    Aug 13, 2007, 11:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    yea i see where you all are coming from. But also the way i see it is you can't fight love if it happens go with the flow this 14 yr old may be in love with the 19yr old. yes it can wait but who wants to wait?
    No you don't see where we are coming from. You are 17 (according to your profile) and obviously don't have as much life experience as so many if us do. You have the romanticized view of love that is typical of a teenager. It is HIGHLY unlikely that love truly exists between a 14 yr old and a 19 yr old, whatever the sexes. A 14 yr old is a child and hasn't enough experience to truly understand what real love is. A 14 yr old is likely to be so flattered by the attention of someone that much older, that they can easily mistake infatuation for love. And a 19 yr old is an adult. A 19 yr old is likely in college or maybe even earning a living. A 19 yr old has a whole set of concerns and interests that a 14 yr old has yet to understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    your right sorta but i'm not going to argue with you on this matter because we have different views...

    Jay15forever Follow your heart thats all i can say besides talk to your parents about it
    This is not an issue of different views. This is an issue of responsible advice. It is irresponsible to encourage such a relationship. The greater likelihood is that the 19 yr old is a sexual predator (whether the male or the female). By encouraging you are setting up the 14 yr old to be exploited. Even if the 19 yr old is truly infatuated, you are setting the 19 yr old up for a life as a sex offender.

    Everyone here is entitled to express their views, but when their views are so off the wall, irresponsible and dangerous they will be put down.
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    #26

    Aug 13, 2007, 12:12 PM
    And is that your fault if he/she becomes a sex offender NO IT IS HIS/HERS. If he/she wants to date a 14 yr old let him/her do it
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    Aug 13, 2007, 12:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    and is that your fault if he/she becomes a sex offender NO IT IS HIS/HERS. If he/she wants to date a 14 yr old let him/her do it
    Excuse me? Did you forget what this site is for? Its for people to ask for help in making a decision. If course it isn't our fault if the 19 yr old turns out to be a sex offender. But it would certainly be our fault if we encouraged the 14 yr old to date such a person, especially knowing what we know.

    They came here asking for advice. We take pride in the quality of the advice we give. Giving advice to a 14 yr old to date a 19 yr old is not quality advice. Its downright BAD advice. Its so bad it might be considered criminal!

    I realize you are a confused 17 year old. Don't confuse others by giving them bad advice.
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    Aug 13, 2007, 12:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    and is that your fault if he/she becomes a sex offender NO IT IS HIS/HERS. If he/she wants to date a 14 yr old let him/her do it
    I don't think you understand. We are saying that when someone comes on these boards and ask if its okay for a child to date an adult it is irresponsible to condone such behavior as you have been doing.
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    #29

    Aug 13, 2007, 12:27 PM
    Okay I gave her advise and what did you all do you shot my advise down then I attempted to ignore it and once again your being rude so never mind good bye
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    #30

    Aug 13, 2007, 12:29 PM
    Did I say go ahead date him no I said do what your heart feels and maybe her heart says no but her head says yes just leave me alone I'm done with this topic
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    #31

    Aug 13, 2007, 12:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by xxmissconfusedxx
    did i say go ahead date him no i said do what your heart feels and maybe her heart says no but her head says yes just leave me alone i'm done with this topic
    Yes you did. What do you think; "If he/she wants to date a 14 yr old let him/her do it" means?

    As I explained we are going to shoot down bad advice to protect the people coming here seeking help. There are times when different pieces of advice might be applicable. But not in this case. I hope your are done with this topic so you won't be giving the OP any more bad advice.
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    #32

    Aug 13, 2007, 03:14 PM
    Excuse me scottgem, but who are you to label this advice as BAD, and bully the kid into abstaining from further posts (on the TEENS page)?

    You might find it unacceptable, but then again there's lots of other countries and cultures that wouldn't find a 14/19 relationship all that scandalous. I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong, I'm just saying that's the way things are - and where on earth does it say that this forum has to stick to the US law?

    Get a grip, your opinion isn't the universal truth. There's as many opinions and there're people, and as many laws as there're countries.
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    #33

    Aug 13, 2007, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kirriky
    and where on earth does it say that this forum has to stick to the US law??
    This particular OP is in the US, that is why we stick to US laws.

    Have you even visited this site? A table of worldwide ages of consent, including US states

    This gives the worldwide age of consent. NOT JUST THE US.
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    #34

    Aug 13, 2007, 03:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kirriky
    excuse me scottgem, but who are you to label this advice as BAD, and bully the kid into abstaining from further posts (on the TEENS page)?
    I am me. I can label ANY advice I want as bad as long as I can back it up. Obviously I am not the only one who felt that the advice was bad. I stand by what I said.

    As for bullying anyone into stopping further posts, I suggest you reread what I said instead of what you wanted to read. It was the poster who said herself, that she was done "with this topic". I assumed that to mean this thread. At no time did I say anything about her ceasing to post period.

    But, as I said earlier, we pride ourselves on the quality of advice we give here. ANYONE who cares about the site, its reputation, the quality of advice given and the help given would feel an obligation to counter bad advice.
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    #35

    Aug 13, 2007, 03:58 PM
    NO A 14 CANNOT GO OUT WITH A 19 YEAR OLD! THE REASON IS BECUASE WHEN YOU ARE 19 YOU KNOW THAT 19-14 EQUALS 5!
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    #36

    Aug 13, 2007, 04:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ma85me
    NO A 14 CANNOT GO OUT WITH A 19 YEAR OLD! THE REASON IS BECUASE WHEN YOU ARE 19 YOU KNOW THAT 19-14 EQUALS 5!
    I agree that a 14 year old cannot go with a 19 year old, but I am sorry, I don't understand your particular brand of reasoning.
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    #37

    Aug 13, 2007, 05:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by kirriky
    excuse me scottgem, but who are you to label this advice as BAD, and bully the kid into abstaining from further posts (on the TEENS page)?

    you might find it unacceptable, but then again there's lots of other countries and cultures that wouldn't find a 14/19 relationship all that scandalous. i'm not saying whether it's right or wrong, i'm just saying that's the way things are - and where on earth does it say that this forum has to stick to the US law??

    get a grip, your opinion isn't the universal truth. there's as many opinions and there're ppl, and as many laws as there're countries.


    Thank you so much for sticking up for me
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    #38

    Aug 14, 2007, 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay15forever
    I think that age is nothing but a number. But I dont get the reason why people think that if your 6 years younger is such a bad thing. If you love that person, is right. What Do you think?:confused:
    I don't think that it's that big of a deal. I want to date a guy that's 20 n I'm 17.. no matter what age you are people are going to see a problem wit the age difference.. but if this person means a lot to you than go for it... thats what I'm doing. :}
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    #39

    Aug 14, 2007, 06:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay15forever
    I think that age is nothing but a number. But I dont get the reason why people think that if your 6 years younger is such a bad thing. If you love that person, is right. What Do you think?:confused:
    Say you have a younger sibiling that was female would you approve of her dating a 19 year old and she is only 14
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    Aug 14, 2007, 06:45 PM
    Of course the younger person does not care often if the older person is latter charged with rape, and listed as a child molestor for the rest of their life. It happens all the time in the US.

    We had a poster just a day or two ago, where after 15 years, they forgot to register when they moved and ended up back in jail.

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