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    Mar 24, 2021, 09:19 AM
    Why do you need a militia, you have a standing army, navy, air force, marines, coast guard, space force
    if you need that explained then you are not a free people .Quis custodiet ipsos custodes ?
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    #322

    Mar 24, 2021, 09:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    if you need that explained then you are not a free people .Quis custodiet ipsos custodes ?
    Thus, you are limited by your fire power. You will never have enough.
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    Mar 24, 2021, 09:30 AM
    So where is the regulation? The right wants NONE, and prayers and condolences fall far short.
    There are gun regulations up the kazoo .Violent crime involving firearms was at its peak when gun laws were also at their peak .It has come down dramatically as gun ownership has skyrocketed. There are about 4 times as many guns in circulation today as in the early ‘90s, ;about 1/3 of all U.S. households, yet murder, assault, and unintentional injury involving firearms are all about half or less than they were then.

    Take a look at the areas where gun laws are considered the toughest in the U.S. i.e. Chicago, New York, Los Angeles… these cities have shown that more laws have little to no effect on criminal activity except to increase violence against the people in the poorest areas.
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    #324

    Mar 24, 2021, 09:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    if you need that explained then you are not a free people .Quis custodiet ipsos custodes ?
    We may be free but that doesn't explain despite the freedoms we are at the mercy of criminals and homicidal maniacs. You seem okay with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    There are gun regulations up the kazoo .Violent crime involving firearms was at its peak when gun laws were also at their peak .It has come down dramatically as gun ownership has skyrocketed. There are about 4 times as many guns in circulation today as in the early ‘90s, ;about 1/3 of all U.S. households, yet murder, assault, and unintentional injury involving firearms are all about half or less than they were then.

    Take a look at the areas where gun laws are considered the toughest in the U.S. i.e. Chicago, New York, Los Angeles… these cities have shown that more laws have little to no effect on criminal activity except to increase violence against the people in the poorest areas.
    What good do laws in the big city do when everywhere around them is lawless?
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    #325

    Mar 24, 2021, 10:02 AM
    There are gun regulations up the kazoo .Violent crime involving firearms was at its peak when gun laws were also at their peak .It has come down dramatically as gun ownership has skyrocketed. There are about 4 times as many guns in circulation today as in the early ‘90s, ;about 1/3 of all U.S. households, yet murder, assault, and unintentional injury involving firearms are all about half or less than they were then.

    Take a look at the areas where gun laws are considered the toughest in the U.S. i.e. Chicago, New York, Los Angeles… these cities have shown that more laws have little to no effect on criminal activity except to increase violence against the people in the poorest areas.
    Those ole nagging facts are sure hard to deal with.
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    #326

    Mar 24, 2021, 10:05 AM
    Thus, you are limited by your fire power. You will never have enough.
    The NV beat us with primarily the Kalashnikov. It has been used in revolutions since it's invention. Mozambique depicts it on their national flag because it was the weapon of choice against Portugal in it's war of independence from Portugal.
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    Mar 24, 2021, 10:09 AM
    One of the first things dictators do is disarm the common people. Once that's done, they have you. An armed people is a free people if they choose to be.
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    #328

    Mar 24, 2021, 10:12 AM
    we are at the mercy of criminals and homicidal maniacs. You seem okay with that.
    I am for law enforcement something you seem to oppose .
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    #329

    Mar 24, 2021, 10:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I am for law enforcement something you seem to oppose .
    Good cops YES...Bad cops HELL NO!.
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    Mar 24, 2021, 10:20 AM
    we are at the mercy of criminals and homicidal maniacs. You seem okay with that.
    Tal might be, but I'm not. I'm armed.
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    #331

    Mar 24, 2021, 11:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Tal might be, but I'm not. I'm armed.
    So was the good cop in Colorado.
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    #332

    Mar 24, 2021, 03:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The NV beat us with primarily the Kalashnikov.
    Tomder, do you seriously believe that NV "beat us with primarily the Kalashnikov"? Wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
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    Mar 24, 2021, 04:12 PM
    NV "beat us with primarily the Kalashnikov"?
    What do you think it was? You do realize the Kalashnikov is the AK-47 which really is an assault weapon?

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