[tomder55]

Not likely we will learn the truth for a while unless the Senate Dems grow a pair and put their country before Obama's marching orders.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Accusing the president of LYING, and COVERING up, and ARMING our enemies ISN'T putting the country first. MOST of the country GOT it last night.. You wingers didn't. Bummer.

excon

[NeedKarma]

The Tea Party effect did it's damage. GOP needs to retool and get away from the neo-cons.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

Accusing the president of LYING, and COVERING up, and ARMING our enemies ISN'T putting the country first. MOST of the country GOT it last night.. You wingers didn't. Bummer.

excon

Most of the country is a slim majority ,and Libya did not come up in the exit polls as a big topic . The press did their job... they ran cover well.

[speechlesstx]

Like I've said repeatedly, if the media had done their job and held Obama accountable he would have lost in a landslide.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Like I've said repeatedly, if the media had done their job

If I lived in a world where the ONLY news source that told the truth was FOX, I'd kill myself...

Better yet, I'd just take off my tin foil hat.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Come on ex, you know if even a quarter of the stuff this administration has gotten away with was done by Bush the media would have hounded him relentlessly, 24/7. I don't need a tin foil hat to see they've done this nation a disservice by not doing their job and holding them accountable. Instead, they were more interested in Seamus the dog. We've been bamboozled.

Yeah, I'm bitter about it. I can promise that in two years I won't have a full time job or I won't have health insurance without going through Obama's managed care and I'm not happy about it.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Nahhh. I don't think the media, except for FOX, are traitors. You make the assumption that the mainstream media LOOKED at the Benghazi story, but because they're in the tank for Obama, and even though they saw TERRIBLE stuff, they looked the other way...

You DO realize that you're indicting an ENTIRE profession.. But, since you indict the ENTIRE scientific profession, I shouldn't be surprised... In MY world, you'd HAVE to wear a tin foil hat to believe that.

excon

[tomder55]

Explain CBS holding on to the segment of 60 Minutes they edited out that clearly showed Obama not calling it a terrorist attack;after it became a major campaign issue.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

explain CBS

CBS is NOT the media. It's CBS. There are MORE media than CBS.

Excon

[tomder55]

Posted on wrong question

[speechlesstx]

CBS is NOT the media. It's CBS. There are MORE media than CBS.

Explain MSNBC. Explain a journalist 'moderator' going to bat for Obama in a debate. Explain Media Matters coordinating with the White House. Explain no one BUT Fox reporting on Fast & Furious and with few exceptions, Benghazi - two incidents where Americans DIED in service due to their own government's incompetence - while the rest shrug their shoulders.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Instead of ME explaining to you, why don't you tell ME why every media outlet in the WORLD is in the tank for Obama?

Isn't it possible that the media DID look, and saw NOTHING? Frankly, since FOX is the ONLY one in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD talking about it, I just have a very hard time giving it any credence...

Now, maybe if FOX had PROVEN itself to BE a real news organization, I might listen to them... But, all they are is the public relations wing of the GOP. Why the HELL should I care what THEY think?

excon

[tomder55]

Chris Matthews was too busy being thankful that a hurricane hit the East.

[speechlesstx]

Now, maybe if FOX had PROVEN itself to BE a real news organization,

Dude, I'd put Brett Baier, Brit Hume, Shepard Stewart and Megyn Kelly up against ANY journalist out there. Show us how they aren't "real news" people. And then do some actual comparisons of which media outlet gives a voice to BOTH sides the most and get back to me.

Truth is, most people bash Fox on hearsay like sheep, and you think leaning conservative is a bigger sin than a media outlet that actually coordinates with the White House. Dude!

[speechlesstx]

Well now, the State Department is allowing access to documents on Benghazi... today and tomorrow when no one is in Washington.

Benghazi documents available to senators only when they are out of town

Under pressure from senators, the State Department is allowing some lawmakers to look at cables and other documents related to the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, but only today and tomorrow, when most senators are not in Washington. …

“To facilitate your committee’s work, we want to offer you and other members of the committee the opportunity to review these cables and memoranda. This set of material contains classified and other sensitive information… Mindful of these concerns, the Department is prepared to make copies of these documents available for the committee’s in camera review.”

One senior GOP Senate staffer told The Cable that State is only making the documents available for senators and committee staff to view today and tomorrow, which won’t actually allow the members to prepare for the hearing. Staffers for committee members are also not allowed to see the material.

“Funny since no member is in town,” the aide said. “The timing and limited access clearly demonstrates the administration cares more about playing politics with the tragedy than accepting responsibility.”

This it the most un-serious administration ever. Will the media give them cover when the administration starts spinning the "well we gave them the access they requested" line? Of course they will.

[tomder55]

OK ,up until this week there were 2 possibilities why the adm failed to immediately call the attack a terrorist attack . 1 incompetence 2. a deliberate misinformation campaign run out of the White House to Congress and the American people .
Now ,with the Petraeus testimony Thursday only number 2 is possible. What we learned is that CIA reports on the incident were deliberately edited to remove the name al Qaeda from the reports ;and that the claim that it was about a Youtube video was a monsterous lie that they not only told the nation and the world repeatedly ,including a major address to the UN... but the President and Evita also told to the families of the dead while they stood next to the caskets of the deceased .
When the President bristle that Ambassador Rice is being targeted he should remember that it was he who personally made her a target in this charade .
The cover-up is unravelling despite the adm. Best efforts to muzzle Petraeus.

[paraclete]

I see Tom you have never heard of spin, putting the best or worst interpretation on a outcome, in this case an obvious deflection to minimised debate during an election campaign. The fact is when you don't have all the facts, it is better to run with what you do have than what you don't. In this case the obvious, a protest same as other protests. As investigations unfold other less obvious facts become known, and in any case they don't want to jeopardise investigation or assets by premature release of information, something that the public or the press have no interest in.

So now Tom you are spinning this for all you are worth, trying to drain the last drop of chagrin because you lost the election

[tomder55]

It is clear from the testimony that they knew immediately that it wasn't a protest ;that it was a terrorist attack. The only spin was when Obama danced on OBL's grave the week before the attack. What we will learn is that not only is AQ NOT on the run as the President says ;instead we have become one of their patrons.

[paraclete]

But Tom you always were their patrons, admittedly the relationship soured somewhat but OBL was a favoured son while the Russians were in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda was a monster of your own making and it bit you because you just could not understand what an affront your presence in Saudi Arabia was to Muslims. You still don't recognise what an affront you represent too much of the civilised world, you think you share our values but you do not.

I would not be surprised to learn that the CIA or some other clandestine offshoot of the US government has been arming or funding Al Qaeda in the megreb any more than I was surprised to learn the US was arming drug cartels in Mexico. It seems that every time something goes wrong we hear that the US had a hand it it