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    #261

    Mar 30, 2010, 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So no facts, just your personal "interpretation".
    No... those are facts... interpretation has nothing to do with nuances... unless you are Bill Clinton... trying to parse words.


    Bill Clinton Slooged on the blue dress... and lied about it... as much as he tried to claim no sex was ever involved. See where dancing around the subject got him. Of course some people still believe that somehow body fluid teleported onto the dress without them being in the same room.


    Calling someone a criminal... and saying that their personal actions may not have been completely legal all arrive at the same thing... the only differences are the nuances of the words used.

    Actually that's not very nuanced... but exaggerated to make a point. You can mean something very different depending on exactly what words are used and how they are used... and it leaves no 'interpretation".

    Both ultimately mean the same thing. And would in a courtroom. Particularly where perjury is involved.
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    #262

    Mar 30, 2010, 12:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No...those are facts.....interpretation has nothing to do with nuances
    Nuances are what drive interpretation. "John is in jail now" seems to be a flat, factual statement. If you are a single guy chatting with another single guy and both of you know John got married last Saturday, the nuance (interpretation) of that statement is that John's marriage is now limiting his freedom. To them, marriage = jail.
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    #263

    Mar 30, 2010, 12:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Based on what I have actually seen the last 25 years....spreading the blame around.
    All I asked is "whom do you trust?" and I don't remember seeing an answer in all I got back.
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    #264

    Mar 30, 2010, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    All I asked is "whom do you trust?" and I don't remember seeing an answer in all I got back.
    I don't think smoother has responded directly to any question.
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    #265

    Mar 30, 2010, 01:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't think smoother has responded directly to any question.
    Must be one of those nuanced things he was talking about.
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    #266

    Mar 30, 2010, 05:00 PM

    I read just this morning that the health care bill will cost AT&T an additional 1 Billion this year. That's about 1/3 of their 4th quarter earnings last year, according to the article.

    That's a lot of money, even for a big corporaton.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't love AT&T due to some past dealings with them.

    But, who do you think this will hurt if not the employees, or maybe that grandma who owns some stock?

    This is just the beginning.
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    #267

    Mar 31, 2010, 02:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    I read just this morning that the health care bill will cost AT&T an additional 1 Billion this year. That's about 1/3 of their 4th quarter earnings last year, according to the article.
    So where did you read that? I've seen some of the "emails" you've posted before so I'm cautious about your use of facts.:rolleyes:
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    #268

    Mar 31, 2010, 02:59 AM
    Oh, look. Here he goes again trying to prove that traditional U.S. allies were only allies of the former administration. Britain, Poland, now Israel: who's next, Canada? Japan? Australia?

    White House 'puzzled' over Netanyahu storm
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    #269

    Mar 31, 2010, 04:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    All I asked is "whom do you trust?" and I don't remember seeing an answer in all I got back.
    Read it again... I was pretty verbose in describing who I trust and why.

    And I do have a perspective on things very few people have that based on real life experience... not colored exclusively by some journalists bias.
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    #270

    Mar 31, 2010, 04:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Must be one of those nuanced things he was talking about.
    I answered... just because you don't want to read it is your problem... not mine.
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    #271

    Mar 31, 2010, 04:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't think smoother has responded directly to any question.
    I answered the question... you however only accept answers cleared by the DNC propaganda office. That's not my problem, its yours.
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    #272

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I answered the question....you however only accept answers cleared by the DNC propaganda office. Thats not my problem, its yours.
    Haha! This thread is always good for a laugh. :)
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    #273

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Haha! This thread is always good for a laugh. :)
    And reflects the Democrats unwillingness to listen to anything except what they are told to believe by the Party.

    Personally... I don't give a hoot if YOU like my answer or not... I made one... if you don't like it tough... I don't clear my answers with the Obnama Propagandists.
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    #274

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    And reflects the Democrats unwillingness to listen to anything except what they are told to believe by the Party.
    LOL! Keep going!
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    #275

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:37 AM

    And what does a Medical police , Gestapo, thugs, whatever you want to call them, who are appointed by the president, are loyal only to the president, and cost hundreds of millions of dollars needed for to provide health coverage? Don't know what I'm talking about? Well then you like mios tof the democrats never read the bill did you... you are told what you should believe is in it, but you never read it and what it can be interpreted to mean. After all, if Democrats actually believed "Deem and Pass" was constitutional, how will they twist this to "mean"?


    Still don't have a clue... go to page 1312 of the Senate bill... explain HOW that has anything to do with covering anyone that's not covered... or providing health care to anyone at all?

    Since you are all so proficient in what's in this bill, you oviously already have copies and don't need a link to it. Because after all, Obama says its good for you... so it must be.


    Never mind Nancy Pelosis saying We need to vote for this bill so we can find out what's in it.

    Hell, clearly SHE never read it...
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    #276

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    LOL! Keep going!
    You showed how much you know... which is nothing...


    Return to your hourly prayer to Obama now...
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    #277

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    You showed how much you know........which is nothing....


    Return to your hourly prayer to Obama now....
    I couldn't care less about Obama, I'm having a laugh at the far-right loonies.
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    #278

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I couldn't care less about Obama, I'm having a laugh at the far-right loonies.
    Happy in your little make believe fantasy world? They can treat that.

    Its clear you have wet dreams about Obama based on your own comments... be an adult and admit it.
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    #279

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:49 AM
    How can it be treated? I'd really like to break out of my make believe fantasy world.
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    #280

    Mar 31, 2010, 05:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    How can it be treated? I'd really like to break out of my make believe fantasy world.
    Well, you won't get it under Obama care...

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