[excon]

Well, you like any good "socialist"...

Now, before you use that derogitory term....."Teabagger" again....which really, really, REALLY tickes me off. At least look it up and see what it means.

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't care that you call me a socialist. I'm not. Not even close. But, I didn't know the term "Teabagger" was offensive. I, frankly, thought you embraced it. Nonetheless, I apologize. I don't need to attack you personally. I'm fine whipping your butt with my words.

excon

PS> Is birther offensive too? I got to know the rules...

[speechlesstx]

and calling anyone who opposed it racists .

A tale of 2 rallies (graphic) - one left, one right.

What is missing is details .

The AP caught on to another detail, premiums could rise 17 percent for young adults and "will pinch many people in their 20s and early 30s who are struggling to start or advance their careers with the highest unemployment rate in 26 years."

[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't care that you call me a socialist. I'm not. Not even close. But, I didn't know the term "Teabagger" was offensive. I, frankly, thought you embraced it. Nonetheless, I apologize. I don't need to attack you personally. I'm fine whipping your butt with my words.

excon

PS> Is birther offensive too? I gotta know the rules...

Birther is offensive... but I'm not one of those either... I just want to know why nobody I have even heard of or consider impartial... or even better, doesn't even like the guy... can say... I've seen it, it exists and isn't being kept under armed guard. I'd be happy with that. Nancy Pelosi has ZERO credibility... I want republicans to vouch for it... they have no interest in spreading a lie if one in fact has been made on the left.

There is a big difference between wanting to see it, wanting to know why it a such a big State Secret... and from arguing no way, no how was he ever born here.


Why are his records secret? The only possible answer is they expose lie, upon lie about him... otherwise he would have released them... as every other president has before him. Not JUST the birth certificate. Particularly given the racial, anti-american, and anti-christian contents of his TWO autobiographies. Which get a free ride by the drive-by media.


And I'll accept the apology. I made that explanation on open forum and not via PM as I did think that you and others could very well have been unaware of its true meaning. Its not exactly common knowledge. I only found out about it 2 years ago... when a gay guy I know used it in an unrelated conversation... I had to ask him to explain what he was saying. Because his actually comment made no sense to me... until he explained.

And it is even worse than the "N" word is to blacks... they at least use that word among themselves frequently... BUT.. We conservatives however... NEVER use that word among ourselves.

It may NOT be an offensive term inside the Gay community... but outside of it, it IS a very offensive term. And I am a straight individual who is NOT gay, or part of that community.

[excon]

Hello again, smoothy:

Ok, then stop calling the Democratic party the Democrat party.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

Ok, then stop calling the Democratic party the Democrat party.

excon

They aren't Democrats any more?

[Wondergirl]

There is a big difference between wanting to see it, wanting to know why it a such a big State Secret... and from arguing no way, no how was he ever born here... Why are his records secret? The only possible answer is they expose lie, upon lie about him... otherwise he would have released them... as every other president has before him.

I never saw another president's records -- but then he was never asked to produce them.

Would you believe any records are the real deal if they are produced (and they have been, by the way)?

And I am a straight individual who is NOT gay, or part of that community.

I'm glad you clarified that.

[spitvenom]

I find it hilarious that no one knows about this term. I have been using this term since I was 12 to make fun of my friends and I am 32 now. When they first said it on the news about the tea party I couldn't stop laughing cause I knew what it meant and then realized the news and no one else really knew what it meant. I still giggle every time someone says it. You can even use an emoticon with the number 3 in front of it to give you a visual!!

[Catsmine]

Cats:
Conservatives Debate: Is 'Teabagger' Their 'N-Word'? | TPMDC and Rise of an Epithet by Jay Nordlinger on National Review / Digital

I stand corrected. Thank you. Wasn't it nice of the tax protesters to provide their opponents a fresh epithet? I'll leave this one alone from now on.

[smoothy]

I never saw another president's records -- but then he was never asked to produce them.

Would you believe any records are the real deal if they are produced (and they have been, by the way)?

I'm glad you clarified that.

Bush had his out (both of them)... Clinton had his out...

The best advocate for anything... is from someone NOT friendly to them.

If Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh, saw them and said they exist... I'd trust them because they have ZERO interest in saying otherwise.

Conversely... do you trust the used car salesman that trying to hawk a car to you... or a salesman that came knocking on your door promoting his goods as the best there is?

So why do you trust a politician when he says, "Trust me, you'll want this".


Or nancy Pelosi... " We need to pass the Bill so we can find out whats in it"


DOn't believe she said that... here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

[NeedKarma]

I stand corrected. Thank you. Wasn't it nice of the tax protesters to provide their opponents a fresh epithet? I'll leave this one alone from now on.

It's the kids who play Halo who picked it up more than anyone else.

[NeedKarma]

If Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh, saw them and said they exist....I'd trust them because they have ZERO interest in saying otherwise.

That is of the funniest and saddest things I have read here.

[Wondergirl]

Bush had his out (both of them).....Clinton had his out.....

The best advocate for anything...is from someone NOT friendly to them.

Do you trust snopes?
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

Even if President Obama had not been born in this country, he would still be a citizen because his mother was. That is U.S. law.

[smoothy]

Do you trust snopes?
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

Even if President Obama had not been born in this country, he would still be a citizen because his mother was. That is U.S. law.

No... because I've proven snopes to be inacurate in at least one situation in the past. (no I forget what... I do have a life after all) And they have a very clear Pro-Obama bias. They aren't even pretending to take a neutral stance.


And because regardless of what THEY may post on that website... No independent or Republican has vouched as to actually having seen the document in question I trust. Just saying they accept he has one is proof of nothing... they never saw it. You have to produce your drivers license if you get pulled over by the Police... your word you have one isn't enough.

Not saying it doesn't exist... but if nobody has seen it or any of his other records... WHY should everyone trust his word on it... he is far from trustworthy. His list of broken promisses would fill a book and it continues to grow daily.

He did keep one... he wanted to "Spread the wealth around" and he is going to steal even more from those who work hardest, to give to those that work the least. Like a true Trotsky follower. No wonder businesses are loath to hire people or make investments so he can take even more.

After all, again... why the great secrecy behind nearly everything in his past.

The man would never qualify for a legitimate low level security clearance with his known background much less a high level one. And yeah... I do know more than a little about THAt topic.

[Wondergirl]

snopes...they have a very clear Pro-Obama bias. They aren't even pretending to take a neutral stance.

How so?

[smoothy]

How so?

Its clearly noticeable to anyopne that doesn't get a shiver up their leg in his presence like several main stream media types publicly commented on in the past.

Oh, they DO make an attempt to appear more neutral, unlike CBS... but it does still show through. I'll give them credit for making that attempt.


Its all about the words chosen, and how they are used... nuances in other words.

Its subtle... but not overt in their case. Katie Couric on the other hand is almost pornographic in her obvios love for the man. Compare it to how she treated Sarah Palin... and what words she uses... and what she choses to ignore.

And yeah... the news writers share in that blame. News anchors rarely ever write their own stories.

[NeedKarma]

Its clearly noticible to anyopne that doesn't get a shiver up their leg in his presence like several main stream media types publically commented on in the past.

Can you provide any facts instead of opinion?

[Wondergirl]

Wow! Whom do you trust, smoothy?

[smoothy]

Can you provide any facts instead of opinion?

Look up accusation at Bush... look up accusations at Obama... on their site.

They are less lovey dovey with Bush than they were for Obama...

Simple cases of Nuances of the english language... its not about actual words... but context and nuances which change the meaning of those words.

I don't like the guy... I don't pretend to be neutral on the topic... if I did you would still see through it... THIS is the case here. If someone took an honest poll over at Snoopes. They would be overwelmingly Democrat in affiliation. They DO try to be honest and neutral... unlike CBS news... but Bias is bias, and it does show through.

[smoothy]

Wow! Whom do you trust, smoothy?

Based on what I have actually seen the last 25 years... and what I've seen reported later? I have actually seen more than a few news events with my own eyes... before reporters twisted reality with their words.

In case you saw my comment on 'Ignorance is bliss" in the Our President thread... it has everything to do with this. Just because you see it on the evening news... doesn't mean that's exactly what really happened. What you see is what they want you to believe happened. They rarely are exactly the same, and many times very different. After all, how many people really saw what happened that can refute the story as inaccurate anyway? When they control the outlet.

I trust what I see... but depending on who I hear it from... I tend to take with varied measures of scepticism.

I trust very few implicitly. But CBS rates right down at the bottom of the pile along with PBS and the BBC as far as obvious and clear bias in their stories.

And its not just in the USA... this happens everyplace just to be fair in spreading the blame around.

[NeedKarma]

Look up accusation at Bush.....look up accusations at Obama...on their site.

They are less lovey dovey with Bush than they were for Obama....

Simple cases of Nuances of the english language....its not about actual words...but context and nuances which change the meaning of those words.

So no facts, just your personal "interpretation".