[paraclete]

you have been drinking what Ex has been. The people on the ground who know what they are talking about told of precision mortar rounds.

Yes so precision they left the ambassador alive to die of smoke inhaliation, sounds like a message to me.

You need to understand, Tom, that it is your people who are smoking dope, we have a saying here, is he on drugs? And the view we get, more and more, is that someone over there is, because reality this ain't.

Jihadists are everywhere, Why? Because of what your foreign policy stirred up in the world. The few successes there have been are nothing compared to the misery inflicted on a billion people. You really do need to concentrate on your own problems.

[talaniman]

The politicization came when the administration pushed the lies.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/05/rice_on_benghazi_blame_the_intelligence_community

Rice was responding to a Sept. 26 letter from the GOP senators in which they accused Rice of jumping the gun and disseminating false information about the attack. The letter quotes Rice's comments selectively, leaving out the context where she cautioned that the information was based on initial assessments. Rice emphasized in her response that she had caveated her remarks in her TV appearances.

So much for keeping you guys in the loop as things develop. Better she said nothing since you were going to holler LIES any way. You have done it before you no doubt will do it again while you yourself condone YOUR lies to the American people.

Without caveat I might add. You would politicize a bump on a log to get MITT elected, and that makes him the perfect right wing loony candidate.

[speechlesstx]

Dude, they knew in a matter of hours. Rice was feeding us her load of crap FIVE DAYS LATER.

[excon]

Hello again, desperate housewives, I mean right wingers...

So, Obama didn't protect our guy's, huh? He's the one who's weak, huh?

Turns out, the right wing shares the blame... In fact, the LOUDEST mouth on your side is the congressmen who VOTED to cut diplomatic security budget .

Whoda thunk that?

excon

[tomder55]

According to the State Dept's testimony, there were NO budget issues for not sending more security.
No ,they can't behind that canard.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

I ain't buying it... If cutting a security budget doesn't result in LESS security on the ground, then why are we spending ANYTHING?

excon

[tomder55]

I'm going by Congressional testimony provided by Eric Nordstrom ;the head of security in Libya who informed State he needed more personel ;and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb (the person most directly responsible for rejecting multiple requests for increased security) ,who testified under oath that she felt there was adequate security there .
Their decision had NOTHING to do with budgetary constraints. It had everything to do with this idea that they wanted the US to have a light presence there .

[speechlesstx]

And by the way, Libya was denied use of a DC-3 for security ops in Libya but by golly, European embassies got their Chevy Volts, and a new $108,000 charging station 4 days after their request was denied.

Priorities you know.

[excon]

Hello wingers:

Here's a little MORE from the hearing... In their right wing zeal to tarnish the president, they blew the CIA’s cover.

Silly Republicans..

excon

[paraclete]

Ex there are some weird ideas at that enquiry, but really it's same old, same old, some back room Johnny, or in this case Jil,l has made a bad judgement call

[tomder55]

I've known from open source information that the CIA was operating out of the safe house for weeks . I also know that they were there recruiting anti-Assad jihadists .Even Milbanks admits that both his Compost and the Slimes had reported about a CIA presence there.

But ,it appears that the State Dept was the one who disclosed it during the testimony by showing the sat. photo of the compound.

[paraclete]

Of course there is a CIA rpesence there, good God there is even an ASIO presence there, but it means nothing, these agencies spend their time intelligence gathering and may even send the occasional misdirected drone. Without boots on the ground they may as well be whistling dixie

[tomder55]

Indeed . Last night Biden outright lied about not getting requests for additional security .

[paraclete]

Politicians lie, I don't know why you think otherwise, it is all about spin, telling the truth or some version of it whilst telling no one anything. How you can think a capitalist in control is a good thing is beyond me, the last one absolutely screwed things up

[tomder55]

politicians lie, I don't know why you think otherwise, it is all about spin, telling the truth or some version of it whilst telling no one anything. How you can think a capitalist in control is a good thing is beyond me, the last one absolutely screwed things up

As opposed to a generation of lawyer /politicians ? I'll take my chance on the capitalist.

[speechlesstx]

Hello wingers:

Here's a little MORE from the hearing... In their right wing zeal to tarnish the president, they blew the CIA’s cover.

Silly Republicans..

Excon

YOu libs really ought to check out a fact or two before running with your silly taunts. The NY Times reported this on September 23rd.

WASHINGTON — The attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans has dealt the Central Intelligence Agency a major setback in its intelligence-gathering efforts at a time of increasing instability in the North African nation.

Among the more than two dozen American personnel evacuated from the city after the assault on the American mission and a nearby annex were about a dozen C.I.A. operatives and contractors, who played a crucial role in conducting surveillance and collecting information on an array of armed militant groups in and around the city.

Then last night the old fart threw the CIA under the bus... I doubt they'll take kindly to that.

[tomder55]

The lies within lies multiply. Now the White House is saying in perfectly Clinton-esque style that when Biden said “we” didn't know about the security request from Benghazi he just meant himself and the president. This is pathetic. Does the State Department not report to the president? Was the national security adviser unaware of what was going on in Libya? An administration that must resort so frequently to pleas of incompetence is not one to be entrsuted with national security.

Obama’s Libya debacle: Willful blindness - Right Turn - The Washington Post

A spokesman tells Foreign Policy magazine that Biden was telling the truth — he just wasn't speaking for the whole administration. The president and vice president, Deputy National Security Adviser for Communications Ben Rhodes said, were unaware of the concerns.

The State Department security officials who testified before House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa's panel Wednesday never said they had made their requests to the president, Rhodes pointed out. That would be natural because the State Department is responsible for diplomatic security, not the White House, he said. Rhodes also pointed out that the officials were requesting more security in Tripoli, not Benghazi.

White House spokesman Jay Carney made the same point in Friday's White House Briefing. The vice president “was speaking directly for himself and for the president,” he said. “He meant the White House.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bama-on-libya/

[paraclete]

Ridiculous, the suggestion here is that the President should micromanage everything, that he should be informed that an ambassador had made routine requests for improvements in security. If this is so he doesn't need his various Secretaries and advisors all he needs is memos and he can wing it

[speechlesstx]

There was no protest in Benghazi, there was no spillover from protest elsewhere as this administration continues to argue.

Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site last week by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials…

The videos could also play into an expanding investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that is looking at whether security steps could have been taken that would have saved the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans killed that day. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who is one of the Republicans leading the House investigation, says he hasn’t been given the footage.

In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.

Video from the compound’s cameras debunk the initial line from the Obama administration that there was a protest in front of the consulate on the night of the attacks, according to one of the U.S. intelligence officials who has seen the footage, and a senior Obama administration official familiar with what they show.

Lies and more lies from Obama and co. but go ahead, keep excusing them even as their entire web of lies is being untangled.

[paraclete]

Who is excusing them? It is clear that some sort of arse protecting went on here, that the spin machine was fully wound up, sadly it is what we have come to expect of the White House no matter who sits in the chair