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    #201

    Apr 26, 2023, 01:58 PM
    How about boys who think they are dogs or cats? They do exist, you know. Should we go along with that as well? How about boys who think they are a god, or boys who think they are angels? If it's all about the person's "heart, soul, brain," then does that settle it in those cases? Do we reach a point where impressions become delusions?

    Talking about delusions, it's amazing how our abandonment of God has led us to the point of not even being able to figure out what we should call boys and girls.
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    #202

    Apr 26, 2023, 02:03 PM
    Too confusing . The understatement of the year

    And you knew where you were then girls were girls and men were men.


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    Apr 26, 2023, 02:05 PM
    Too confusing . The understatement of the year
    Indeed. You have to wonder about the district's reasoning. What problem were they trying to solve?
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    #204

    Apr 26, 2023, 02:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    our abandonment of God has led us to the point of not even being able to figure out what we should call boys and girls.
    Read in Genesis about God giving humans free will. We can e.g., inject estrogen and progesterone into a pregnant woman's womb, changing the hormone balance for the developing fetus. Or maybe it's a natural flow of hormones.
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    Apr 26, 2023, 03:15 PM
    Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.

    Philippians 3:2 ESV - Look out for the dogs, look out for the - Bible Gateway





    Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

    Corinthians 3:16-17
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    #206

    Apr 26, 2023, 03:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.

    Philippians 3:2 ESV - Look out for the dogs, look out for the - Bible Gateway
    Were you circumcised? Had any surgery -- tonsils out, appendix out, heart surgery? Do you take Viagra? (against God's will, btw)
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    Apr 26, 2023, 04:17 PM
    Read in Genesis about God giving humans free will. We can e.g., inject estrogen and progesterone into a pregnant woman's womb, changing the hormone balance for the developing fetus. Or maybe it's a natural flow of hormones.
    We've discussed this before. There is no medical evidence for a hormonal connection to the transgender situation.
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    #208

    Apr 26, 2023, 04:54 PM
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    We've discussed this before. There is no medical evidence for a hormonal connection to the transgender situation.
    Of course there is! You don't trust my evidence. Google honestly.
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    #209

    Apr 26, 2023, 04:58 PM
    Your strategy number 3. When you have no idea, you suggest someone else search the web. Doesn’t work. It’s wayyyy too obvious.
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    #210

    Apr 26, 2023, 05:23 PM
    You flunked.
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    #211

    Apr 26, 2023, 05:47 PM
    Strategy four.
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    #212

    Apr 26, 2023, 06:07 PM
    Lots of science sites -- WebMD, MayoClinic, PsychologyToday, to name a few.
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    #213

    Apr 26, 2023, 06:46 PM
    Strategy three...again.

    Do your own work.
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    #214

    Apr 27, 2023, 04:58 AM
    A man posing as a woman and claiming to be a transformer ran in the elite London marathon. He/She/It ran as Glenique Frank. Frank finished ahead of 14,000 other real women. The London marathon is highly competitive and follows World Athletic Rules which prohibits runners from competing that have gone through male puberty.

    Last month he ran in the Tokyo marathon as Glen Frank.

    Women sports is dead .

    Clueless Joe is going to put the final nail in it . He is proposing Title 9 protections for transformers.

    Biden's Title IX proposal would make broad, transgender sports bans illegal : NPR
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    Apr 27, 2023, 05:17 AM
    A man posing as a woman and claiming to be a transformer ran in the elite London marathon. He/She/It ran as Glenique Frank. Frank finished ahead of 14,000 other real women. The London marathon is highly competitive and follows World Athletic Rules which prohibits runners from competing that have gone through male puberty.
    So much of this leaves an opening as big as an ocean liner for conservatives, and yet who seems to be the standard bearer but Trump, a guy so repulsive to liberal dems that he provides them an incentive to vote for JB.
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    #216

    Apr 28, 2023, 04:58 AM
    Dems in the Minnesota Legislature had a new bill (HF1655) that would remove language from the state's Human Rights Act that says pedophiles are not protected based on "sexual orientation." (4.1 - 4.7)

    The Human Rights Act reads ;"'Sexual orientation' does not include a physical or sexual attachment to children by an adult." (subd 44 )

    Sec. 363A.03 MN Statutes

    That language would've been removed.


    The proposed change also read....

    "'Gender identity' means a person's inherent sense of being a man, woman, both, or neither. A person's gender identity may or may not correspond to their assigned sex at birth or to their primary or secondary sex characteristics. A person's gender identity is not necessarily visible to others." (4.10 -4.13)

    The bill was not stand alone. It was surreptitiously added into a Judiciary Policy omnibus bill that passed Wednesday.

    The Repubs added a last-minute amendment to the bill before it was approved by unanimous consent. No Dem apparently wanted to be on record supporting pedophilia. But had the Repubs not been vigilant the language would've become Minnesota law. A major bullet was dodged. But it does show what extent the Dems are prepared to go to codify deviancy.

    The gender language is still in the bill and it is now up to the state Senate to reject it .
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    #217

    Apr 28, 2023, 09:29 AM
    What about left-handed people? Deviant!!!
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    Apr 28, 2023, 11:46 AM
    I don't think I would put left-handedness in the same category as pedophilia. Wouldn't you think the child victims would see the comparison as pretty bizarre?

    Perhaps you meant something else?
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    #219

    Apr 28, 2023, 01:29 PM
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    Perhaps you meant something else?
    Yes. Compared to gender identity.
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    Apr 28, 2023, 02:42 PM
    A better comparison to gender identity would be a person claiming to be of a different race or a different species. In all three cases, it would be a violation of clear, genetically-determined biological markers. That is not the case with being left-handed. A person would not say, "I am genetically right-handed, but I claim to actually be left-handed."

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